Dark Kraken | Dark Kraken

[Ajit]

NAME: Dark Kraken ELEMENT: Water COST: 5 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 5|9 TEXT: Dark Kraken's ability can only be used if under water. : Crush Destroy target permanent	NAME: Dark Kraken ELEMENT: Water COST: 5 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 6|11 TEXT: Dark Kraken's ability can only be used if under water. : Crush Destroy target permanent

ART: vrt IDEA: Ajit, OldTrees, girlsgeneration NOTES: Suggestions more than welcome!  Costs and stats can be adjusted as always. SERIES:

[ZephyrPhantom]

I think the cost should be 6  | 6  since it has higher HP than an Abomination and an ability.

[Cynxos]

I love cards made by multiple people, it only contributes to the idea.
And the fact that it has art by vrt, will only make it more popular.
As for the card; some PC for water is awesome. And using flooding for it is great.

[BloodAngel]

Awesome idea!!
I really like the synergy with flooding, gives it finally some more use,
also, i think the cost of 5 is enough, if you use this as a hitter, Abyss crawler is better 6|6 for 4
And since the ability can only be used if you have 7 or more creatures out, then play the Kraken and flood him, i don't think you have to calculate that through in the costs.

Based on my own superduperknowlegde of cards, flooding is absorbing a water quanta as well, so the cost for the ability would be 2 respectively, + a one time cost of  2 (inunduation) and the kraken cost (5), so it seems right to me.

[Jappert]

I agree, it's awesome.

Also keep in mind that both destroying the inundation as killing the kraken (or lobotomising it) will render his skill useless, so it has more then enough counters.

Great idea, I got no further comment!

[GG]

A genius idea of introducing permanent control to as well as a buff to flooding.

Only one concern I had was the fact that already has two midrange attackers, and this is the third one, while elements like do not even have a midrange attacker (well, until 1.27 comes out, that is)

[Hyroen]

I can't quite see where the Crush came out of. I can see it killing creatures, permanents not so much.

Aside, I support the underwater mechanism. It really gives the field a strong realistic vibe, something I'm really seeing being a significant part of EtG in the near future.

[Jappert]

I can't quite see where the Crush came out of. I can see it killing creatures, permanents not so much.

Kraken are said to have crushed ships with their tentacles. I don't think shields would be that big a problem.

GG is right about the mid range attackers though, you could choose to give it some more attack (and cost...) and less HP. Kraken don't really have any armor, they're pretty soft, so a large HP pool doesn't reflect that.

[Hyroen]

@ Jappert: I just can't see it crushing certain permanents. Empathic Bonds, Flooding, Boneyard, Mindgate?

Some permanents create more of a vibe to the field as opposed a tangible object in it, which is why I could see Crush apply more to creatures.

Idk, just my 2 I guess...

[OldTrees]

@Hyroen If it can sink ships, destroy buildings and level cities then I think it can destroy most permanents (Boneyard, Pillars, Mondgate, Shields, Weapons)

As for the stats:
The current stats would be judged at 7 |8-7 under current theory (to balance vs dragons like Colossal Dragon [Ignoring Massive Dragon])
However the new theory I am working on would suggest a -1 cost reduction for all slow cards hence 6 |7-6 might be more appropriate.

[Ekki]

Interesting twist for the idea... Calling it Dark Kraken, like it!

The underwater thing has been suggested as well as the Kraken, and I always liked both ideas together, but the Kraken died if out of the water. So I guess this one is a better idea

Also remember that even though octopuses and that stuff are weak, the Kraken is The Kraken, it's massive, destructive and deals lots of damage. I guess it should be a game-breaker.

BTW, I strongly support the underwater skill thingy.

[OldTrees]

Also remember that even though octopuses and that stuff are weak, the Kraken is The Kraken, it's massive, destructive and deals lots of damage. I guess it should be a game-breaker.

Also remember that while Giant Frogs are the size of Giants they only have 5 attack.
Dragons have always outstripped Krakens in mythology.