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Commission | Crusade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7993.msg89957#msg89957
« on: June 13, 2010, 02:35:57 am »
NAME:
Commission
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
6 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
ABILITY:
Any creature targeted by a healing spell or ability gains +1|0 permanently.
NAME:
Crusade
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
5 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
ABILITY:
Any creature targeted by a healing spell or ability gains +1|0 permanently.
ART:
http://caravanofdreams.wordpress.com/2009/05/11/time-and-this-dream-world-taken-from-shabistaris-the-secret-rose-garden/
IDEA:
johannhowitzer
NOTES:
Target need not gain any health to receive the attack boost.
Both players gain the benefit while this card is in play.
The only effects that trigger this are the Holy Light | Holy Flash card, and the Heal creature ability, which is native to Guardian Angel | Archangel.
SERIES:
None
"Now is not the time to contemplate morals. It is not fair for us to be the only innocent ones."

Re: Commission | Crusade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7993.msg90058#msg90058
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2010, 05:57:28 am »
Hm.  I am wondering whether this should be stackable.  If it is, decks centered around Archangel could be brutal - say you have three angels and two of these cards in play, that means you could add 6 damage per turn for only 3 :light.

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Re: Commission | Crusade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7993.msg94263#msg94263
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2010, 04:25:17 pm »
Hm.  I am wondering whether this should be stackable.  If it is, decks centered around Archangel could be brutal - say you have three angels and two of these cards in play, that means you could add 6 damage per turn for only 3 :light.
I believe that would be fine, its costing you 6 cards to deploy at considerable cost.  Growth costs 1 of an element and gives +2 Atk each round and its all built in on one card.

Re: Commission | Crusade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7993.msg94562#msg94562
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2010, 09:21:59 pm »
Also the problem of many eggs in one basket.  There aren't THAT many sources of damage-based CC, and if you're only healing one target (say an Armagio), that one critter can be Rewound, Petrified, Frozen, Mutated... etc.  And if you're heal-boosting, Quint isn't an option.

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Re: Commission | Crusade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7993.msg118708#msg118708
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2010, 02:12:18 am »
Wow, I haven't seen this before. But, I like the ability but really don't like the name Crusade, for the same reasons why I don't like the Crusader card's name. Religious purging, no plx.

Why not change the name to Consecrate or something?

Re: Commission | Crusade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7993.msg120302#msg120302
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 08:39:56 pm »
Like it or not, the name is appropriate for what the card does.  I had a feeling someone would complain.  Does the game need to be PC?

The word "crusade," while it can have historical connotations of a sinister nature, has come to mean just about any zealous undertaking of a religious nature.  The largest para-church organization in the world is called Campus Crusade.  I believe they understand Christian history well enough to know how that word may come across to some people.

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Re: Commission | Crusade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7993.msg120825#msg120825
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2010, 10:45:42 am »
;) Well, it is not that I was complaining or anything. I just simply do not like shoving in religious context into the game like that. Sure, there are some hints of religion and mythology with FGs like Hermes and cards like Anubis, but those FGs and cards do not deal with colliding because of belief or religion. Elements already have their opposites, but if it was because of in game religious nature.. then that would be sort of silly.

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Re: Commission | Crusade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7993.msg120833#msg120833
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2010, 11:21:29 am »
Commission - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/commission
–noun
1. the act of committing or giving in charge.
2. an authoritative order, charge, or direction.
3. authority granted for a particular action or function.
4. a document granting such authority.
5. a document conferring authority issued by the president of the U.S. to officers in the Army, Navy, and other military services, and by state governments to justices of the peace and others.
6. the power thus granted.
7. the position or rank of an officer in any of the armed forces.
8. a group of persons authoritatively charged with particular functions: a parks commission.
9. the condition of being placed under special authoritative responsibility or charge.
10. a task or matter committed to one's charge; official assignment: The architect received a commission to design an office building.
11. the act of committing or perpetrating a crime, error, etc.: The commission of a misdemeanor is punishable by law.
12. something that is committed.
13. authority to act as agent for another or others in commercial transactions.
14. a sum or percentage allowed to agents, sales representatives, etc., for their services: to work on a 20 percent commission.
–verb (used with object)
15. to give a commission to: to commission a graduate of a military academy.
16. to authorize; send on a mission.
17. to give the order that places a warship, military command, etc., in a state of complete readiness for active duty.
18. to give a commission or order for: The owners commissioned a painting for the building's lobby.
—Idioms
19. in commission,
a. in service.
b. in operating order: A great deal of work will be necessary to put this car in commission again.
c. Also, into commission.  Navy . (of a ship) manned and in condition for or ordered to active service.
20. on commission, paid entirely or partially with commissions from sales one has made or for work one has done: The salespeople who are on commission earn 6 percent of the total amount they sell.
21. out of commission,
a. not in service.
b. not in operating order: The stove is out of commission.



Crusade - http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/crusade
–noun
1. ( often initial capital letter ) any of the military expeditions undertaken by the Christians of Europe in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries for the recovery of the Holy Land from the Muslims.
2. any war carried on under papal  sanction.
3. any vigorous, aggressive movement for the defense or advancement of an idea, cause, etc.: a crusade against child abuse.
–verb (used without object)
4. to go on or engage in a crusade.






Nothing Religious about Commission. Crusade is somewhat attached to religions.

Could call both cards "Commssion".
Could call the upped card "Crusade of Light" removing any link to a real life religion and explicitly linking it the religious laws of the element.

Re: Commission | Crusade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7993.msg120855#msg120855
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2010, 12:35:16 pm »
Yes, I looked it up at that same website.
Quote
3. any vigorous, aggressive movement for the defense or advancement of an idea, cause, etc.: a crusade against child abuse.
–verb (used without object)

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Re: Commission | Crusade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7993.msg121137#msg121137
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2010, 06:51:29 pm »
Lol Kael, way to totally ignore one of the most important definitions of the word...

Re: Commission | Crusade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7993.msg121157#msg121157
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2010, 07:12:02 pm »
It took until the Forge for someone to complain, but this got the most votes in the Crucible.  Also it just doesn't make sense - I mean, we have Blessing, Miracle, Holy Light, Angels, and a possible reference to Lucifer (Satan) in the Light element already.

Plus we have several kinds of spiders and the Parasite, which many people might find creepy; the Lobotomizer, a reference to a medical mistake that was debilitating for many people; Plague, which wiped out a third of Europe; a reference to demons in Entropy; Cremation, which stands a slim chance of offending someone who's lost a loved one; the Druidic Staff, a reference to a group of people who performed human sacrifices...

Pardon the rant - I just hate it when people play the PC card over something silly.  Anyone have anything to say about the mechanics of this card, rather than the cosmetics?  I'm not making any cosmetic changes, I'm very happy with that aspect.

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Re: Commission | Crusade https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7993.msg121168#msg121168
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2010, 07:29:56 pm »
It took until the Forge for someone to complain, but this got the most votes in the Crucible.  Also it just doesn't make sense - I mean, we have Blessing, Miracle, Holy Light, Angels, and a possible reference to Lucifer (Satan) in the Light element already.

Plus we have several kinds of spiders and the Parasite, which many people might find creepy; the Lobotomizer, a reference to a medical mistake that was debilitating for many people; Plague, which wiped out a third of Europe; a reference to demons in Entropy; Cremation, which stands a slim chance of offending someone who's lost a loved one; the Druidic Staff, a reference to a group of people who performed human sacrifices...

Pardon the rant - I just hate it when people play the PC card over something silly.  Anyone have anything to say about the mechanics of this card, rather than the cosmetics?  I'm not making any cosmetic changes, I'm very happy with that aspect.
Nice explanation. :) That's pretty much why I hadn't changed Crusader's name either. I like the mechanics of the card. If it stacks, I think the card is perfectly fine as is. If not, it could possibly boost to +2|+0.

 

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