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Re: Colossus | Ancient Colossus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6329.msg519899#msg519899
« Reply #72 on: July 10, 2012, 03:19:23 am »
Triple enraged collosus + PU + PU = OHKO!!!
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Re: Colossus | Ancient Colossus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6329.msg519906#msg519906
« Reply #73 on: July 10, 2012, 03:25:29 am »
lol necro to the extreme
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Re: Colossus | Ancient Colossus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6329.msg522886#msg522886
« Reply #74 on: July 17, 2012, 10:23:53 pm »
Can i suggest you a rewording that would fit the new frame?

Enters with 3 counters and can't attack if it has counters on it. When it is dealt damage remove a counter from it.
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Re: Colossus | Ancient Colossus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6329.msg522895#msg522895
« Reply #75 on: July 17, 2012, 11:36:07 pm »
Quote from: jacker on July 17, 2012, 10:23:53 pm
Can i suggest you a rewording that would fit the new frame?

Enters with 3 counters and can't attack if it has counters on it. When it is dealt damage remove a counter from it.
You may suggest it.
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Re: Colossus | Ancient Colossus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6329.msg523294#msg523294
« Reply #76 on: July 19, 2012, 02:53:31 pm »
This card is interesting, but the amount of counters should be higher for such stats imo. Cards like Virus exist and have low cost, and this new card would have so huge OTK potential that it shoukd really be harder to wake up. Comparing with Colossal Dragon, this guy makes up for the difference in damage dealt while he was sleeping extremely fast (unupped he's got 3 times the dragon's attack seriously...)

Also if you Accelerate him, what happens?
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Re: Colossus | Ancient Colossus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6329.msg523348#msg523348
« Reply #77 on: July 19, 2012, 07:41:42 pm »
Quote from: odideph on July 19, 2012, 02:53:31 pm
This card is interesting, but the amount of counters should be higher for such stats imo. Cards like Virus exist and have low cost, and this new card would have so huge OTK potential that it shoukd really be harder to wake up. Comparing with Colossal Dragon, this guy makes up for the difference in damage dealt while he was sleeping extremely fast (unupped he's got 3 times the dragon's attack seriously...)

Also if you Accelerate him, what happens?
In 3 turns it wakes up with +6|-3
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Re: Colossus | Ancient Colossus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6329.msg523354#msg523354
« Reply #78 on: July 19, 2012, 07:55:55 pm »
I haven't commented yet! I think this is a bit too powerful due to the OTK potential. Consider, one Ancient Collosus, 3 lightnings, and 3 TU.

10 :gravity + 21 :aether + 7 cards for 100hp OTK. Not that hard to accumulate those quanta, especially since aether can stall with dim shields.
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Re: Colossus | Ancient Colossus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6329.msg523358#msg523358
« Reply #79 on: July 19, 2012, 08:14:11 pm »
Quote from: furballdn on July 19, 2012, 07:55:55 pm
I haven't commented yet! I think this is a bit too powerful due to the OTK potential. Consider, one Ancient Collosus, 3 lightnings, and 3 TU.

10 :gravity + 21 :aether + 7 cards for 100hp OTK. Not that hard to accumulate those quanta, especially since aether can stall with dim shields.
How does 31 duo quanta + 7 cards compare to other OTK decks?
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Re: Colossus | Ancient Colossus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6329.msg523362#msg523362
« Reply #80 on: July 19, 2012, 08:26:02 pm »
Quote from: OldTrees on July 19, 2012, 08:14:11 pm
Quote from: furballdn on July 19, 2012, 07:55:55 pm
I haven't commented yet! I think this is a bit too powerful due to the OTK potential. Consider, one Ancient Collosus, 3 lightnings, and 3 TU.

10 :gravity + 21 :aether + 7 cards for 100hp OTK. Not that hard to accumulate those quanta, especially since aether can stall with dim shields.
How does 31 duo quanta + 7 cards compare to other OTK decks?
Well, for dragon blitz OTK, that's around 10 quanta of :fire, :death, :life, and :water, 6 :aether, and 9 :air. Around 54 rainbow quanta and 6 cards.

For limitless speed combo, it's 13 :light + 1 :gravity + 6 :fire + 6 :aether + 9 :air + 6 cards for OTK. 33 rainbowish quanta and 6 cards.

For PvP instosis, it's 12 :time + 4 :life + 6 :rainbow + 9 :air + 5 cards. 31 rainbowish quanta and 5 cards.

Not sure about voodoo OTKs or cata OTKs.

Also, what if this were combined with chimera? Would the chimera get rid of the delay? If so, then you can pay either 47 :gravity or 17 :gravity + 18 :aether + 5 cards for an OTK.
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Re: Colossus | Ancient Colossus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6329.msg523624#msg523624
« Reply #81 on: July 20, 2012, 03:00:39 pm »
If this is combined with Chimera you might aswell play both same turn i guess. Or toss a handful of Basilisk Bloods and a quint in there first  :)
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Re: Colossus | Ancient Colossus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6329.msg523861#msg523861
« Reply #82 on: July 21, 2012, 02:41:00 am »
An ok combo here would be 4 ancient colossus, 1 chimera

Thats 46 mono quanta and 5 cards. A little more quanta needy, but only 5 cards needed.
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Re: Colossus | Ancient Colossus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6329.msg526306#msg526306
« Reply #83 on: July 27, 2012, 06:05:06 pm »
Quote from: mokasu on May 09, 2010, 12:17:32 am
lol I was just wondering if anyone can make an OTK deck outta this card  :D

Imagine 6 SoB, 6 of these bad boys, 1 Chimera, 17 Gravity Towers. Mark of Fire.
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