VAULT

[The Oracle]

Vault editing should be primarily done by the team Vault Organizer using the following link: > LINK TO VAULT < (https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AgB8fZX7y8kydE5CSUlBLVliRVliaWRobVpPdV9Scmc&hl=en&authkey=COfFjN0B) Do not give this link to anyone outside your team! When you edit the Vault, please post on this topic, explaining what edits you made. For example: Round 1: Salvage +24 Discard -18 NEW FEATURE: One major change to Vault editing is that instead of editing the same sheet over and over again, we will have separate sheets for each round. 1. Click the Vault editing link 2. Click the arrow next to the "Round 1" tab on bottom-left 3. Choose "Duplicate" 4. Rename the new tab ("Copy of Round 1") to "Round 2" 5. Ignore "Round 1" tab, and start using "Round 2" tab 6. Repeat the previous steps for each new round By doing this, old salvaging/discarding information is no longer lost, and we can more easily monitor what happens to the Vaults during the event.

[Kael Hate]

Friendly Reminder

You have run out of time to Complete your Opening Vault.

Penalty for failure. 12 cards.

Your Vault is not complete, and you are running out of time.
Get those cards into the spreadsheet and work out the tweaks afterwards.
Its Better to have most of the cards you want rather than lose all control on what you get and suffer a penalty.

PM me if there is something wrong.

[The_Mormegil]

When I get back from school, I'll edit the Vault to match whatever I find on the spreadsheet. If cards are missing, I'll refer to the Vault Ideas thread. I think we'll need to edit it a bit, but as Kael said, that can be done later.

[The_Mormegil]

I had to insert two more cards, so I chose to add 2 Bonds, as our General suggested. I will proceed to make an alternate Vault after lunch, so that if I'm not here to discuss this evening, when the countdown ends, you will at least know my point of view.

EDIT: I used the spreadsheet, adding another sheet at the end (I think it would be a good idea if everybody did this, actually, but that's just me). I took out some cards I deem useless, but there's still a lot of manouvre that can be done. The main changes are:
- no easy entropy duo (took out the AMs) -EDIT- back in due to feedback, reducing Wings to 15 to make space. I feel 5 wings are enough for a deck, though.
- only one FFQ deck
- 20 less pendulums
+ two flying MS decks (counter to many problems, may be slow but it's an answer to too many decks to just ignore)
+ a Darkness duo (packed 8 steals too)

It's possible to take down a flying MS deck to gain 12 more cards to be used as seen fit. But, I wouldn't recommend it, all considered. That deck counters Discord BH, counters time/darkness duo (which is even stronger now), counters pandebonium, counters almost any RT splash deck, counters most rushes pretty effectively...

[truddy02]

I like most of your proposed changes.  I do think however that adding 2 more flying weapons decks is going to stretch us a bit too far.  If we add the extra copy of our light deck, I think we have to do something else with darkness.  Perhaps LS dragons with cloaks, steals, and a skyblitz or two would be an acceptable deck.  Since cloak is going to offer some protection from reverse time, this becomes a viable deck again.  8 steals is probably too much though if we only have one real darkness deck.  They cannot be splashed or really used in any other deck.  FFQ is nice against death, entropy, maybe some others but I can agree to one deck there.  I still think we have too many shockwaves.  I would trade 6 of them for 6 lightnings that can be used in some of our aether duos.  Also antimatter is the only other entropy cards we have to use in a duo right now to use with our discords.  If we take them out I think at least replace them with some Maxwell's to fight off dragons in a wings deck.  Also take out the catapults, we are not going to able to fit them in a titan deck very well because it is just too much gravity.  Sorry I don't have time to make my version of what the vault could look like, I have to get to work and won't be back until after the deadline is past.  These are just my thoughts on what we have and Mormegil's purposed changes.

[omegareaper7]

Round 2:

Salvaging
5x Parallel Universe
1x Aether Pillar
6x Sanctuary
6x Miracle
5x Devourer
1x Vampire Stiletto

Discarding
25x Air Pendulums
3x Wings
4x Arctic Squids

Penalties


Converting
6x Toadfishes -> 6x Air Pendulums
3x Water Pillars -> 3x Air Pendulums
3x Water Pendulums -> 3x Air Pendulums

I believe that covers it.

[The_Mormegil]

*GENERAL APPROVED CHANGES*

Salvaging
4x Light Pillar
2x Arsenic
6x Basilisk Blood
2x Miracle
1x Sanctuary
2x Purple Dragon
4x Nova


Discarding
5x wings
4x Empathic Bond
6x Firefly Queen
3x deflag
11x wind pillar
4x Nova
1x Azure Dragons
1x Fog Shield
13x air pendulum

Penalties


Converting
6x BB -> 6x Air Pendulum
5X Devourer -> 5 Air Pillar
2x Sanctuary -> 2 Air Pillar
1x Sanctuary -> 1 Air Pendulum
2x Fractal -> 2 Air Pillar
2x skyblitz -> 2 Air Pillar
6x Flesh spider -> 6x Air Pendulum

[Kael Hate]

Your Vault is Incorrect for round 2.
Your SDPC topic does not match your vault.
You have recieved a penalty. 6 cards.

The Topic here http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24181.0.html is supposed to be an accurate list of your SPDC but you actually made changes to the vault according to this post 
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23640.msg334989#msg334989

You do not need to change anything. You will just suffer the penalty and play on.

[jippy99]

Your Vault is Incorrect for round 2.
Your SDPC topic does not match your vault.
You have recieved a penalty. 6 cards.

The Topic here http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24181.0.html is supposed to be an accurate list of your SPDC but you actually made changes to the vault according to this post 
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23640.msg334989#msg334989

You do not need to change anything. You will just suffer the penalty and play on.

And that is why you tell the salvager the changes BEFORE you make them.  Oh well, it won't happen again.  Also, someone post this rounds ones.

[Kael Hate]

Your Vault is Incorrect for round 3.
Your SDPC topic does not match your vault.
You have recieved a penalty. 6 cards.

The Topic here http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,24671.0.html is supposed to be an accurate list of your SPDC but you actually made changes to the vault according to this post 
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,23640.msg342552#msg342552

You do not need to change anything. You will just suffer the penalty and play on.

[Kael Hate]

Your Vault was not completed for round 4.
It had no modifications at all.
You have recieved a penalty. 12 cards.

You do not need to change anything. You will just suffer the penalty and play on.
I have created a new Auditors copy in the vault of your salvage declared. Copy it for round 5 to carry on.

[Hisar]

Okay, what's the real vault?  The round 4 auditor's version?