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Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15687.msg200800#msg200800
« on: November 14, 2010, 03:48:11 am »
1.  :light Salamence_747         Other opponents:  :gravity:aether:earth (2),  :life (2),  :death,   
     :air pervepic                                                 :darkness   

2.  :air QuantumT                   Others:  :darkness:water:aether:gravity:death (3),  :air
     :time Smokefree

3.   :air chum3                       Others:  :entropy:light:death:earth (2),  :time:darkness,
      :aether icecoldbro                             :gravity

4.   :time Valuka
      :air truddy02

5.   :life Wizelsnarf                  Others:  :fire (2),  :darkness:water:earth (2),  :light (2)
      :air Klaymore

6.   :fire Hyroen                      Others:  :life (2),  :earth:entropy:gravity:water:earth,
      :air Gyrodiot                                      :darkness

7.   :darkness Kuroaitou          Others:  :time:fire:aether:entropy (2),  :light:gravity:life
      :air Dogg

8.   :death smuglapse              Others:  :aether:entropy:time (3),  :earth:gravity:light
      :air Istari.

9.   :air glowing ice                  Others:  :aether:gravity:darkness (2),  :death:water (2),  :fire
      :entropy Sir Valimont

Discuss. I guess that going back for 2 rounds should be enough.

1. Decks  :light used in round 3: Loss 18
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lh 5lh 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 7ju 7ju 7ju 80d 80d 80d
Won 6 probably  :light cards from  :air
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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i9 5i9 5i9 5i9 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lg 5lh 5lh 5li 5li 5li 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq
Loss
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lh 5li 5li 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rt 5rt 5rt
Win (could win Novas, Graboids but also some  :darkness cards - Steal, Dusk, Gargoyle)
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5i4 5i4 5i4 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i8 5i9 5i9 5jm 5jm 5jm 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lh 5lh 5li 5li 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq
Win (Discords, Dissipation Shields, Forest Scorpios)
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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f5 5f5 5f5 5f7 5f8 5f8 5fb 5fb 5fb 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lh 5li 5li 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq
Win (Graboids, Grav Shields, Immolations, Lava Golems)
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5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5i7 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5lc 5lc 5ld 5ld 5lh 5lh 5rk 61q
Loss
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52o 52o 52o 52q 5fb 5i7 5i7 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lb 5lb 5lb 5lb 5lb 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lf 5og 5rk
Loss
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lh 5lh 5li 5li 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 7ju 7ju 7ju
Win  (Fire Bolts, Fahrenheits, Sundials)
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593 593 593 593 593 594 594 594 594 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5la 5la 5la 5la 5lh 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mqAnd decks they used in round 2:
Loss
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 7k2 7k2 7k2
Loss (12 cards)
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5l9 5l9 5la 5la 5la 5la 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lh 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq
Loss
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lh 5lh 5lh 5lh 5lh 5lh 5li 5li 5li 5li 5og 5og 5og 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi
win (EQ-s,  :time Dragons)
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lh 5lh 5lj 5lj 5lj 5lj 5lj 5lk 5lk 5lk 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh
loss
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58s 58s 58s 58s 593 593 593 593 593 593 594 594 594 594 594 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lh 5lh 5li 5li 5li 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq
loss
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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 52t 52t 5l8 5l8 5la 5la 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5li 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq
win (Ice bolts, Mindgates, Dim. Shields)
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4vn 52o 52o 5f6 5i7 5i7 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lb 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lg 5lh 5mq 5mq 5rk 61q 6u3 6u3 6u3 7ju 7ju 7ju
win (Discords, Novas, Graboids, Basilisk Blood, Flying Weapons)
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5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5i7 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5lc 5lc 5ld 5ld 5lh 5lh 5rk 61q
loss
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5la 5la 5la 5la 5lh 5lh 5li 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 5mq 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t2. Decks  :time used in round 3:Win (Shockwaves, Wings, Ice Bolts, Toadfishes)
Code: [Select]
590 590 590 590 593 593 593 593 595 595 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5ro 5ro 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2
loss (18 cards)
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5oi 5oi 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5ro 5ro 5ro 5rs 5rs 5rs 5rs 5rs 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2
loss
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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rj 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rn 5ro 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t
loss
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5f6 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk
win (Discords, Antimatters and others  :entropy cards)
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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rm 5rm 5rm 5t2 5t2 5t2 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up 5up 5ur 5ur
loss
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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52p 52p 52p 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rl 5rl 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2
win (dim. shields, lightnings)
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 5rk 5rk 5rm 5rm 5rt 5rt 5rt 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 74a 74a 74a 7n0 7ri 7ri
win (fire bolts phoenixes, deflags)
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576 576 576 576 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rj 5rj 5rq 5rq 5rq 5rq 5rq 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 622 622 622 622 622
loss
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590 593 593 593 593 595 595 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5ro 5ro 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 77g 77g 77gAnd in round 2:
win (fractals, phoenixes, deflags)
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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52p 52p 52p 52p 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2
win (poison, fire bolts)
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593 593 593 593 593 593 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rm 5rm 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g
loss
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592 593 593 593 593 593 593 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5ro 5rs 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2
win (holy lights, phase spiders)
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5f6 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rh 5rj 5rj 5rl 5rl
win ( :entropy cards)
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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rm 5rm 5rm 5t2 5t2 5t2 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up 5up 5ur 5ur
loss
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590 590 590 590 590 593 593 593 595 595 595 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5rm 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2
loss
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4vh 4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 5f6 5f6 5f6 5og 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rj 5rs 5rs 5rs 5rs 6u3 6u3 6u3
loss
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5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5li 5li 5rj 5rj 5ro 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2
loss
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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rm 5rm 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5ur 5ur3. Decks  :aether used in round 3:
loss (18 cards)

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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f8 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7ds 7ds 7ds
loss
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592 592 592 593 593 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61s 61s 61s 61t 61t 61t 61t 61v 61v 61v 620 63a 63a 63a 63a
loss
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5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a
win (eternity, pharaoh, flying weapon, wings)
Code: [Select]
52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 710 71a 71a 7gl 7gl 7gl
win (devourer, steal, dusk, phoenix)
Code: [Select]
5uk 5uk 5uk 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 5ut 61o 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a
win (miracle, ice shield, ice bolt)
Code: [Select]
592 592 592 592 593 593 593 593 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61s 61s 61s 61t 61t 61t 61t 61u 61v 61v 61v 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a
win (momentum, bone dragon)
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5ia 5ia 5if 5if 5if 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61u 61v 61v 61v 61v 621
win (earthquake, bone wall, arsenic)
Code: [Select]
5ia 5ia 5if 5if 5if 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61u 61v 61v 61v 61v 621
loss
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5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 5ut 61q 61q 61u 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63aAnd in round 2:
win (earthquake, shieker, devourer, steal, dusk)
Code: [Select]
592 592 592 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61v 61v 61v 61v 61v 61v
loss
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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f8 5fc 5fc 5fc 61o 61o 61t 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a
loss
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5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c4 5c4 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a
loss
Code: [Select]
5oi 5oi 5oi 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61u 61u 61u 61u
loss
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5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5li 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61s 61s 61s 61s 61s 61v 61v 620 620 620 620 620 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a
loss
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 5i5 5i5 5i5 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 621 621 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a
win (poison, freeze)
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5ia 5ia 5if 5if 5if 5if 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a
win (miracle, eternity)
Code: [Select]
5um 5um 5up 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 61q 61q 61q 61u 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7t6 7t6 7td
loss
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5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 5ut 61q 61q 61u 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a4. Decks  :life used in round 3 (very unlikely that they could have material for some new decks):
win (lightning, discord, diss. shield,pandemonium)
Code: [Select]
4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 5c2 5c2 5c5 5c5 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5f6 5f6 5og 61q
win (fractal, phase shield)
Code: [Select]
55p 55p 55q 55q 55r 55r 55s 5bt 5bt 5bu 5bu 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c0 5c2 5c2 5c2 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de
loss (18 cards)
Code: [Select]
52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52s 52s 52s 52s 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5bu 5c6 5c6 5c6 5c6 5c6 5c6 5c7 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 7aj 7aj 7aj
win (fractal, dim shield, frog, heal)
Code: [Select]
5c2 5c2 5c2 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5us 5us 5us 7t6 7t6 7t6 7t6 7tb 7tb
loss
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4vg 4vg 4vi 4vi 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vm 4vm 4vm 4vm 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c8 5c8 5c8 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de
loss
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5bs 5bs 5bs 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 621 621 621 621 621 621
win (devourer, steal, vampire, fractal)
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5bu 5bu 5bu 5c2 5c6 5c6 5c7 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5lk 5lk 5lk 5oj 5oj 5oj 5oj 5oj 5oo
win (poison, mummy, bone wall, arsenic)
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5c5 5c5 5c5 5c7 5c7 5c7 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5on
loss
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5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c4 5c4 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f5 5f5 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f7 5f7 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fc 5fc 5fc5. Decks  :fire used in round 3:
win (dim shield)
Code: [Select]
4t5 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f2 5f2 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fb 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9
loss (18 cards)
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4so 4so 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f7 5f7 5lg 5lg 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9 7q9
win (nova, bone wall, owls eye, schockwave)
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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f6 5f6 5f8 5fb 5fb
win (discord, reverse time, chaos power)
Code: [Select]
5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f7 5f7 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fb 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo
win (devourer, steal)
Code: [Select]
4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f6 5f6 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fb 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi
win (posion, arsenic)
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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52q 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f3 5f3 5f6 5f6 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fb 5og
win ( :darkness cards)
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5f6 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5i7 5i7 61p 61p 61p 61q 61q 61q 61q 622 622 622 7ds 7ds 7ds
win (steam machines?)
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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f3 5f6 5f6 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61u 621 621 621 63a 63a
win (nova, graboid, stiletto, steal)
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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f6 5f8 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5gi 5gi 5gi 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rkAnd in round 2: loss (12 cards)
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4so 4so 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f6 5f6 5f8 5fc 5fc 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 7dg 7f2 7js 7js 7js 7js
loss
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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f5 5f6 5f6 5f8 5f8 5fb
win (antimatter, nova)
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52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f6 7dr 7dr 7dr
loss
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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fb 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9 5l9
win (wings)
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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f2 5f2 5f2 5f6 5f8 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5gi 5gi 5gi 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk
win (discord, maxwell, adrenaline)
Code: [Select]
4vi 52q 595 5f6 5f6 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fb 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5i7 5l9 5l9 5l9 5og 5og 5rk 5ur 61p 61p 61p 61q
win (blessing?)
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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f7 5f7 5f7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7
loss
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4ve 4vf 4vf 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 5f5 5f5 5f6 5f6 5f6 5fb 5fb 5fc 5fc 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi
win (lightning, fractal,)
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4vj 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f7 5lg 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a6. Decks  :darkness used in round 3:
loss (18 cards)
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5f6 5f8 5fb 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5fc 5gi 5gi 5gi 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 5up 5up 5up 5ur 606 606 606 606 606 606
loss
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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5on 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5un 5uo 5uo 5up 5ur 5uv 5uv 5v8 606 606 606 61q
loss
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4vi 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5on 5uk 5uk 5uk 5un 5uo 5up 5up 5ur 5ur 5ur 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 61q
win (discord, nova antimatter)
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5ia 5ia 5uk 5uk 5uk 5up 5up 5up 5uu 5uu 606 61q 7tb 7tb 7tf 7tf 7um 7um
win (antimatter, squid, ice shield)
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5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5on 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5uq 5ut 5ut 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606
win (fractal)
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52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52q 5un 5un 5un 5un 5un 5un 5v0 5v0 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 71b 71b 71b
loss
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5la 5la 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5li 5li 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 5up 5up 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606
loss
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5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5ur 5ur 5us 5us 5us 5uu 5uu 606 606 606 606 606
win (basilisk blood, diss. shield)
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5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ur 5ut 5ut 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 622 622 622 622And in round 2:win ( holy flash,  :fire dragon,phoenix, deflag)
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4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vl 4vl 4vl 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606
loss (12 cards)
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593 593 593 593 593 593 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5uo 5uv 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 7tf 7tf 7tf
win (immolation, phoenix)
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5lg 5on 5uk 5uk 5uk 5un 5uo 5up 5up 5ur 5ur 5ur 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 61q
win (dim shield,lightning)
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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5on 5uk 5uk 5up 5up 5up 5ur 5us 5us 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 61q
win (graboid, earthquake, basilisk blood)
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5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5ul 5uo 5up 5up 5ur 606 606 606 606 606 606 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 621 621 621 621
win ( :darkness cards)
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5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5uq 5ur 5us 5us 5us 5ut 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 622 622 622 622 622
win (poison, arsenic, bone wall)
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 590 590 5i7 5on 5uk 5uk 5uk 5un 5uo 5up 5up 5ur 5ur 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 61q
win (adrenaline, forest scorpio)
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5on 5on 5on 5on 5oo 5oo 5oo 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5up 5us 5us 5uu 5uu 5v8 5v8 5v8 7tb 7tf 7tf 7um 7um 7um
win ( :darkness cards)
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593 593 593 593 593 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5ur 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv 606 606 606 606 6067. Decks  :death used in round 3:
win (diss shield, pandemonium)
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52l 52l 52q 52q 52q 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp
loss (18 cards)
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52h 52h 52p 52p 52q 52r 52r 542 542 542 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55s
loss
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52g 52g 52g 52g 52p 52p 52p 52p 52q 52r 52r 52r 542 542 542 542 542 5f6 5f6 5ia 5lg 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5on
win (dim. shield, fractal, chryasora)
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4vc 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vn 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52p 52p 52r 52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 542
loss
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52h 52j 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 593 593 593 593 593 593
win (dim. shield, quints, lightning)
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52g 52g 52g 52q 52q 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 590 590 590 590 590 5f6 5f6 5og 5og 713 713 713
loss
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52p 52p 52q 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t
win ( :darkness cards)
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52p 52p 52q 52q 52q 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 713 713 713 713 713 713
win ( :darkness cards)
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52h 52h 52p 52p 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f8 5f8 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fc 5fc 5fcAnd in round 2:
win ( :light cards)
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52h 52q 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 52r 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 592 592 592 593 593 593 593 593 593 5l8 5l8 5l8 5li 5mq 5mq
win (ice bolt, ice shield)
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52p 52r 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5on 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 713 713 713 713 713 713
loss
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52j 52j 52j 52j 52j 52j 52p 52p 52q 52q 52r 542 542 542 542 542 542 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo
loss
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52g 52g 52g 52g 52q 52q 52u 52u 52u 52u 52u 52u 542 542 542 542 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 55q 5og 5og 5rk 61q
loss
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7 5i7
win (momentum, adrenaline, forest scorpio)
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52p 52p 52q 52q 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 713 713 713
loss
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 52g 52g 52g 52g 52q 52q 52r 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 590 590 590 590 590 590 593 593 593 5og
win (owls eye, empathic bond)
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4vc 4vc 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vn 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542
win (ice bolt, deflag, phoenix)
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52q 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 5f6 5f6 5f6 5f6 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fb8. Decks  :entropy used in round 3:
win (nova, graboid, basilisk blood, grav. pull)
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t
loss (18 cards)
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vl 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q
win (black hole)
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52q 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi
loss
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vn 4vn 4vn 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 5ia 5ia 5ia 5ia
loss
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4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 5rt 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2 6u2
loss
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52q 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi
win ( :light cards)
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4vf 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk
win (poison, bone wall)
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4vd 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4vf 4vf 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u
win (phase shield, fractal)
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 590 590 590 590 590 590 592 593 593 5oi 5oi 5oi 6u5 7n0 7n0And in round 2:
win (wings, flesh spiders)
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vp 4vp 621 621 621 621
win (reverse time, momentum)
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4vc 4vc 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4ve 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 55t 55t 55t 55t 55t 55v 55v 55v 55v 6ts 6ts 6u5 6ve 6ve 6ve
win (fog, flying weaps)
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 590 590 590 590 590 590 593 593 593 593 5og 5oi 5oi 5oi
loss (12 cards)
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4vd 4vd 4vd 4vd 4vi 4vl 4vl 4vm 4vm 4vm 500 50u 50u 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7
win (nova, momentum, death stalker)
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 590 590 590 590 590 590 593 593 5ia 5ia 5oi 5oi 5oi 6u5 6u5 7n0
win (poison, lightning, dim. shield, quint)
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4vd 4ve 4ve 4ve 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vg 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vh 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 5up 5up 5up 5up 5up 5up
win (graboid, rewind)
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vd 4vd 4ve 4ve 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vf 4vg 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vl 4vl 4vl 500 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u
win (nova, graboid, earthquake)
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4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vc 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vg 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vi 4vn 4vn 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 4vp 5ia 5ia 5ia
win (rage potion, fir bolt, deflag, heal)
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vl 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 50u 590 590 590 590 590 590 593 593 593 5og 5oi 5oi 5oi 5rkOk, that should be enough information for making decisions.
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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15687.msg200850#msg200850
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2010, 05:42:47 am »
One rather unfortunate thing that needs to be considered is what happens if the round is going poorly and we're going to end up near or below 270 cards. It's not desirable to be forced to build as close to the 30 card limit as possible, as it limits your options. It might get to the point where if a single win would put us over the border at the end we should sub instead.

Just putting that out there as something that's going to come up sooner or later.

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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15687.msg200914#msg200914
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2010, 10:15:19 am »
Quick count :

Current Vault : 394
If we go :
9-0 -> 448
8-1 -> 418
7-2 -> 388
6-3 -> 358
5-4 -> 328
4-5 -> 298
3-6 -> 268 < 270
2-7 -> 238 < 240
1-8 -> 208 < 210
0-9 -> 178 < 180

So, without subbing, if we go 3-6 or worse, we would go everytime just below the card limit.

But hopefully it won't happen this round :)

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About my :fire matchup, some observations :
- if they have Deflagration in a deck, they don't have Fire Bolt, and vice versa ;
- not counting the Bolts, their CC is made of Rage Potion, Lightning and Reverse Time
- they have Freeze too, but they used only 2 of them last round
- I think they won't use Wings against :air ...
- the Poison - Bolt deck scares me...
- as they won 8 matches last round, they have 48 near-unknown cards in their Vault
- as weapons, they have Hammer, Arsenic and Farhenheit
- no damage-reducing shields, but Reflective (for Fire Bolt decks), Wings and Dimensional, and a single Fog Shield for a rainbow deck.
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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15687.msg200931#msg200931
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2010, 11:21:56 am »
First goal: to win. And if there is two equally good winning decks, then we'll chose bigger one. And that's enough, no more calculating what happens in case of the loss, because that is out of the plan :)
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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15687.msg201070#msg201070
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2010, 05:00:27 pm »
Here is what I was thinking from looking at  :time and some stuff QuantumT said on the other thread.  QuantumT mentioned using the earthquake deck against them but was worried about one stack of pillars and high cost cards.  I think we could adjust it adding 3 protect artifacts (can counter earthquake deck or steal deck) and QuantumT can use his 3 upgrades to put in 3 upgraded wyrms(to counter reverse time).  I could take the fractal fireflies because it has multiple stacks of pillars(counter earth quake) and an immaterial shield(counter steal).

I also want to make a list here of cards we should be ready for from each team.  These will be cards they have the most of, used in their winningest decks, generally used against us, and/or cards we know they have that counter our winningest decks. 
One particular thing we should be aware of is that any team that has shown a reverse time deck is likely to use it against us because of the success we have had with flying titans and other flying weapons decks.

I was thinking  :darkness may be a good match to use flying titans and maybe even throw in a few black holes.  They have yet to show a reverse time and really seem to love that graboid rainbow with novas.

:time:  earthquake, steal, reverse time
 :light: miracle, ice shield, immolation
 :aether:  dim shield, fractal w/(devourer, minor phoenix, physalia, frogs) players allowed upgrades have fractalled something every round
 :life:  graboid (in rainbow), heal, poison, darkness duo (steal, devourer, possible vampires, etc)
:fire: fire bolt, rage potion, poison (also lots of salvage from last round so more difficult to predict)
 :darkness: graboid/nova(in rainbow), fractal(w/devourer), discord, 2-3 steals per deck
 :death: bone wall, plague, heavy cc(lightning, shockwave, or rage potion)
 :entropy: discord, graboid, maxwells demon


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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15687.msg201271#msg201271
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2010, 10:15:16 pm »
Argh, i have to face devourers and hax shield.. vs a lieutenant. Well, i'll be damn if i don't knock those bastard cards out of their vault... Flying titan deck does seem like a good one to go here. Not sure how it would act against a bit faster decks with devourers. Gonna test that a bit. If any team member wants to test with me, would also be nice, if it is not to risky to do it, cause of the spectator mode...
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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15687.msg201276#msg201276
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2010, 10:19:31 pm »
One thing I'm iffy on with the titan deck versus darkness is the vampire+gravity pull glitch. I'm not sure if I want to deal with the headache that is sure to entail.

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Re: Round 4 - Strategy https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15687.msg201280#msg201280
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2010, 10:22:42 pm »
Argh, i have to face devourers and hax shield.. vs a lieutenant. Well, i'll be damn if i don't knock those bastard cards out of their vault... Flying titan deck does seem like a good one to go here. Not sure how it would act against a bit faster decks with devourers. Gonna test that a bit. If any team member wants to test with me, would also be nice, if it is not to risky to do it, cause of the spectator mode...

the Flying titan deck i was useing. works amazing, 90% of the time it started me with 1 of every card, very fast moving.  if you do go with it, i would keep it the same. 

 

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