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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33926.msg429338#msg429338
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2011, 09:00:09 pm »
Ok, we've been gifted an extra day in this round (and duelling too) because of the event card, and some holiday that I'm sure has no importance to anyone :P

No response yet from Aether or Darkness. Now that I think about it, Light does have Phoenixes/Angels, which aren't known to be susceptible to Pandemonium - but I don't know how many deals we want to start that we can't keep. (If we could swap with one and the other two could swap together, but Higs mentioned another deal)


I figure it can't hurt to have a basic idea of where we are right now.

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this against  :time then... probably should be modded to be better. Maybe - shockwave + fog, unless we want 3 fogs in the other deck.


And against death... I'm a little confused.
I'm not good at elements, I'm just not seeing why the darkness duo would be a particularly good choice?





Ugh
I found out we can only swap one match so I'm afraid we can't (already agreed on a swap), I heard Death and Light were looking for an Entropy/Entropy swap earlier though.

Yay
So the plan is to swap :light majofa and :air DrunkDestroyer ?
waiting on confirmation from  :light (likely) and  :aether (probably not) now, so we should be in a good position.

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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33926.msg429557#msg429557
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2011, 05:22:06 am »
Alright, so far we have this:

vs Entropy (Switching with Light)
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vs Time (I put the fog shield in, you never know when it might come in handy. Although Shockwave is a good addition vs Time, I think Fog is better in most situations and I think we should keep the amount of pends. If we want we could make the deck 31 cards and add both shockwave + fog.
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vs Death
We have life duo, darkness duo, and possible aether duo left.


My thought on S/D

First deck (our losing deck): Already done.
From devtal: 4 x Fractal, 2 x Devourer. Convert the Devourers.
From time/aether: 6 x Lightning. Convert any lightnings we don't use.

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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33926.msg429604#msg429604
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2011, 06:43:35 am »
Do we need the Air/Light duo against Entropy, if we're switching with match-up's with Light?  It's not set in stone yet but seems really likely.

I suddenly feel as if the Air/Aether duo would work against Death.  Lightning's to stop speedbows, and Fractals against the SS/Plague stall.
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What do we need to convert to run all 3 decks?
I think the given ones so far are the Explosion and the Blue Nymph. We can also take 2-3 cards from the S/D and convert those (highly doubt we can still run an Air/Darkness duo even with those spares if it loses).  Other than that though...maybe the Life duo?  We can use Fractals for burst damage, and we only have 1 FW for Adrenastaves.

Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33926.msg429617#msg429617
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2011, 07:24:46 am »
I agree completely with TF here, we want to save that light duo for as long as possible, in this round there is at least an element of surprise - we don't want to lose it on an off chance and be pretty screwed against entropy (which is the team that we are most likely to vs again unfortunately)


We should probably make an effort to figure out what entropy will be sending against light. Vamps are dangerous (antimatters), but they will probably take the stall against darkness - there is still the lycan one to be worried about there. Discords/Pandemoniums are unlikely because Light can counter them both (sanctuary, angels), but antimatters seem kinda likely to me, Light always plays creatures, and have just lost their RoL Hope. The darkness duo is a little iffy, but if we play it without vamps, or with a few of them so they can be held for emergencies without clogging the hands. (Vamp daggers are allright, PC is possible since Light did win with Dimshields last round - worth putting in though)

Thats my inconsice opinion, and it may be wrong, its just what I think I guess.

(Good call on the Fog Legit)



I hate to let go of the life duo, because I built it with my heart, but these decks are pretty pillar heavy, and I'm not sure about how strong it is.
I should have some time tomorrow to do some basic testing of it, as well as the aether/air duo - if we could figure out how many fractals/Wyrms/Dragons was perfect, that would probably be a good thing :)





We will switch with you.

majofa <=> DrunkDestroyer
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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33926.msg429781#msg429781
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2011, 06:57:23 pm »
OK shit, Aether wants to swap too.

This obviously was a very good idea, but now we have 3 teams, and only two which can swap. Also, I'd rather not screw either of the teams over - so we should pick quickly and try to minimise any damage.


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Just tell whichever team that we can't go with that we misunderstood the event card and that it is impossible, some clever member of team air just pointed out that it wouldn't work to our great sadness. They'll know if they explore our secret section  (Hi guys!)  but at that point in time, nobody cares - and they'll know our situation.

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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33926.msg429831#msg429831
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2011, 09:45:04 pm »
I hate to deny a team of switching after we asked them, but since we already made the deal with Light, I would say apologize to aether. I feel that our odds are equal switching with either team, so I say just stay with the Light switch.

Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33926.msg429854#msg429854
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2011, 10:30:02 pm »
Light just sent a PM to me/kevkev for confirmation, so it looks like it'll be easier to reply, thanks for your thought Legit (lol, I really just didn't want to make this one without anyone agreeing/opinioning)


might talk to Higs now

sent a message.


Trade with majofa confirmed. (Well, both of us have PM'd kevkev that we both want to, hasn't been WM confirmed, but yeah)



Now we just need to finalize decks/vault

Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33926.msg430142#msg430142
« Reply #19 on: November 24, 2011, 07:27:57 pm »
1 hour 40 minutes to go, ugh, for some reason I thought we had 1 more day.


Ok, looks like we need to rush this, and fit it all into the vault.


Not that much time for testing and ect, I'm running the air/aether duo now, and it seems like it needs more pillars, less pends, really aether is near useless after the first fractal.


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is what I'm running at this exact moment. I'm not sure whether its the best deck to take, the other option is the  :life duo.
And that probably has too many pillars, not enough pends, and maybe 1 too many lightnings.




I guess darkness duo vs entropy, and entropy duo vs time still. Going to put them here, then into vault, please comment if you have better solutions.

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I think that's allright, time to VAULT and modify decks until everything fits

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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33926.msg430153#msg430153
« Reply #20 on: November 24, 2011, 07:44:58 pm »
Wait, I'm going test the Life Duo against Entropy's Antimatter stalls.  Since I think Vampires are well...

Edit:  Or are we converting all of the life cards to pillars/pends now? :0

Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33926.msg430158#msg430158
« Reply #21 on: November 24, 2011, 07:49:01 pm »
Wait, I'm going test the Life Duo against Entropy's Antimatter stalls.  Since I think Vampires are well...

Edit:  Or are we converting all of the life cards to pillars/pends now? :0
I've converted them to make the vault work, I can un convert them just as simply. BTW, click on the anonymous users thing in vault if you can ;), opens up a chat box

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Re: Round 7 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=33926.msg431112#msg431112
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2011, 07:33:08 pm »
Oh well guys, we did our best until the end but I think this round was the Vampire Dagger. But hey, maybe we can pull off a miracle and keep winning with our last deck :DDD
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