Round 6 - Strategy

[chum3]

As of now these are the scheduled matches (more information to come later):

chum3 vs. Zeru
pervepic vs. Shantu
QuantumT vs. cebra
Klaymore vs. 918273645
truddy02 vs. ak65ala
Gyrodiot vs. Miniwally

So 2 , 1:entropy, 1:death, 1:water, and 1:underworld
Team decks:

In round 5:
They lost with a Light-Duo and a Fire-Duo (Both 30 Cards)
win

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55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 55k 576 576 576 576 576 5og 5og 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5on 5pu 5pu 745 745 745 745 745 745And in round 4:
Note: They had a -6 penalty for using a wrong deck.

win (win 6 vs. darkness-air duo, dark pend? steals? black dragons? shock waves? owl's eye?)

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win (win 6 vs. water-life duo, adrenaline? forest scorp? puffer fish?)

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win (win 6 vs. fire+freezes, freeze? a deflag? farenheits? fire bolts?)

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lose (discard 24)

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lose (24)

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lose (24)

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lose (24)

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lose (24)

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Win (Salvage 6 vs. Darkness-Air duo, shockwave? wings? a fog shield? owl's eye? dark pendulum, minor vampires, a nightfall, black dragons?)

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Win (6 from Air-Gravity duo, black hole? air pend? a fog shield, an owl's eye, wings?)

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Win (6 from Light-Fire duo, rage pot.? miracle? reflective shield?)

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NOTE: A lot of the cards they could possibly salvage from don't fit into their current decks.
Team decks

In Round 5:
Lost with an Aether Duo, an Entropy-Earth Trio and a Poison deck

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win (no salvaging due to sub)

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win (salvage graboids? EQs? reverse times? 1 precog?)

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win (salvage black hole? discord? maxwell? abomination?)

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loss (discard 24)

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lose (discard 24)

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lose (discard 24)

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52q 52q 52r 52r 52t 542 542 542 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5up 5up 5uq 606Winning decks of team  in round 5:

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Standings:

413 Entropy
361 Death
341 Fire
196 Air
193 Light
172 Life
155 Aether
145 Darkness
118 Gravity
108 Underworld
101 Water
90 Time
74 Earth

[Istari.]

Let's see if I did this right
We still have our
Unstable Gas
Death-Duo
Earth-Duo
Light-Duo
Fire-Duo
and some Mono Air Decks we can run

[truddy02]

I would bet that underworld goes with one of the 2 rainbows because there is a big difference between upped supernova and unupped nova.

[Istari.]

My first thought would be to use wings against them, so they probably will go with the PU Titan deck so they can get through any wings we throw into the deck.

Edit: Think our Earth Deck would be our best bet there, it would knock out the titan's with basalisk blood (if they can't quint it) and could screw over their quanta production since they have a few fairly high cost cards in there, including the titans.

[Istari.]

Gravity's Decks
They lost with a Light-Duo and a Fire-Duo (Both 30 Cards)

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Lost with an Aether Duo, an Entropy-Earth Trio and a Poison deck

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[QuantumT]

I haven't looked through the other teams, but gravity we should be able to solidly beat. They lost 2 of their better decks last round, and that scorpion deck they won with is clearly a cry for help. It very likely only won because darkness decided to suicide against it. The only thing we need to do it see if there's any way they could have black holes in the 10 remaining cards (it would be great if someone had time to go through and see if there are any cards in the mystery 10 we know they have), because darkness gave them the discords they would need to run it again. Even if they can, it's no guarantee they will use it against us, as between fog shield and wings, we're fairly resistant to discord.

I think that UGs is a solid counter to anything that they can throw at us here.

[chum3]

Thanks Istari.! Adding it to the list. Will be working on it for the next hour or so.

[truddy02]

From our losses from last round we will have 9 pillars and 42 pendulums left.  This includes saving pendulums from our decks that were larger than 30 cards.  We get 12 conversions giving us a total of 63 pillars/pendulums for next round.  This works out to only about 10 per deck.  If we use 1 suicide than we get 12-13 per deck.  I think if we don't suicide all decks will suffer, while with 1 suicide we can still make 5 good decks.    and  should be among the easiest to predict.  In the  matchup we get 6 upped cards.  While I don't like the idea of making the strongest team stronger,  has turned the tables on us after we won several of the early matchups.  They will be the most difficult to predict, we will probably continue to struggle against their poison decks, since we don't have firefly queens anymore, and they get 6 upped cards against us.  I don't know what everyone else thinks, but in my opinion strategically our best move is to suicide to  and build 5 strong decks for our other matchups. 

Also to add to the decks Istari listed I think that depending on what we convert and salvage we still have cards for 1 darkness duo and through salvage we can still do an aether duo.  I think a 31 card aether deck using dim shields and a few lobos could do well against either  rainbow.  It would just depend on getting lobo early enough against the titan deck.

[Istari.]

Underworld will probably use their salvage to make slightly bigger decks though.

[QuantumT]

I'll try to get to it if possible, but I don't think I'll have time. Does someone think they could test this deck against the 3 decks gravity played last round, as well as discord/BH (which there is an outside possibility they could make from salvage)?

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[Dogg]

I could definitely test it, just need someone to test it with.

[Istari.]

Think our deck setups should look like this
chum3 - Suicide
truddy02 - Earth Duo
Gyrodiot - UG Deck
pervepic - Dark Duo
QuantumT - Either Aether or Fire Duo
Klaymore - Either Aether or Fire Duo