Round 5 - Strategy

[pervepic]

Now I wish we had something like 3 Firefly Queen decks. Its just poison everywhere:  ,  ,  . But available decks are:

1. Fractal - Spiders. A good candidate against  , since they played Bone Walls-Poison last time. Probably needs some Pillars to survive against Discord. Against  is not so good, because of Steals and Frac-Devourers. Good against  but not good against  .

2. Phase Shield- Quints. Playable aginst  , but slow and won't survive against Poison-Bone Walls they played last time. But playable against    (speed poison is still dangerous). Not very good against  .

3. Phase Shield-Lightning. Normal against  but othervise...bad aginst  ,  and  .

4. A duo with  . There is 2 Liquid Shadows, 2 Steals, some Devourers and 1 Black Dragon left left, LS-s may be good against poison. But I am not sure if this one is good against  , because they have available the same  -duo that beat us last time. Against  ,  this is not good and against  I guess this one may be quite ok.

5. A duo with Phoenixes. It may be a counter to  -s deck, since we can put 2 Immos and 2 Novas there. But only then if they Fractal only Devourers but not Vampires (they have both, frac-devourers deck and frac-devourers-vampires deck). Not good against  , but may be playble against 

6 A duo with  . Good against  (I took some Pandemoniums too) and good against almost everything.

7 Earthquake deck. Playable against  .

8. Flying Titans. Against  ,  . Maybe with some additional Pillars even ok against  .

9. Flying Owls. Best against  , but losing this deck would suck alot.

10. Firefly queen deck. Surprisingly  doesn't have a good counter for it. Also  and  could be in trouble. Now depends on overall stategy if we play this deck against  or  - the latter choice would be more risky but more more ambitious. A little too risky is to play it against  though, because of fractal-devourers.

11. UG deck. I am aware that  has some problems with the permanent control, but if they have poison, they maybe even won't need it. Shortly, different combos with UG are slow and poison kills that deck often.

12. A Dragon-Miracle Spam. A good deck against  .

13. Blackhole deck. Underworld will meet that.

13. Monos with some Deflags. Well, if there is nothing more to play...


Shortly, I don't know what to choose

[chum3]

Well, at least we have options 

(Is Fractal Firefly there? That can be a separate option too, if you don't want to specifically go with Firefly Queen.)

Ergh I hate not knowing what is in other team's vaults (only knowing half of Water's vault isn't enough).

If we do go the Black Hole route against Team Underworld, what should be in the air component of the deck? Wings, Owl's Eye, Wyrms, a Dragon, a Fog Shield?

I am better at asking questions than answering them 

EDIT: Like QuantumT said, Water will probably take those 3 decks they won with last round and slightly modify them (e.g., their Nova deck with some more Graboids that they won). It's not like they have a lot of cards to work with. To those 3 decks I'll say they'll probably still keep their Trident-EQ deck (they won back some EQs) and probably have some Toadfish/Puffer fish deck lying around. As for their last deck ... I dunno. Maybe another Ice Bolt deck with Miracles.

Wild speculation isn't getting me anywhere, though. I'm just hoping we don't face a poison deck ;/

[Gyrodiot]

My deck is a duo with which has Pandemonium and Dragonfly-BE and Antimatter. I'm testing the deck : my main strategy is to play Pandemonium, then play Dragons, AM, and Dragonfly-BE in the same turn. But once I have Dragonflies or AM'd creatures, I won't play Pandemonium.

So I have to wait my opponent plays creatures, then play Pandemonium, then my cards. Eventually I can play Dragons and hope Pandemonium won't RT them. Or, I can just refrain from playing Pandemonium depending of my opponent.

It's a bit complicated... but it should work. No quanta issues, by the way.

[pervepic]

Yea, no Fractal-Fireflies anymore. Maybe that poison deck is not so dangerous, I don't know too. Much depends on tht Lobo I have there I guess. And this Trident deck is the one I don't want to meet at all...

Gyro, just depends on the situation what  does. Pandemoniums are there for Devourers, but maybe there is no need for them at all. If you make a bigger damage than  , there is no need for Pandemonium.  I added a Pillar too, so no need to be afraid of Steals too much.

[glowing ice]

*takes a deep breath*
any one online? i have the flying owl's deck and i would like to test it to no end to make sure it will win.  a lot of weight is on me now cus we cant lose this deck.

[chum3]

Available right now if you'd like to play some practice rounds. Currently guest-1999 in chat.

[Istari.]

I'm in as Happyelf if anyone wants to help me test.

[Istari.]

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Testing out flying titans against this deck, don't think it will be able to win against it, we could get lucky, but this deck is a pretty good counter against ours, and they probably still have it.

[QuantumT]

That does look like an incredibly bad matchup. The only possible way you could win as far as I can tell would be to get your OE to kill the creatures and then try spamming all of your titans at once, but it would have to be done before arsenic kills you by itself. Basically RT kills the deck.

I'm basically certain that they still have the deck, because the only things from it that they could have lost last round would be mummies and arsenics, which I'm sure they have plenty of.

[chum3]

Tested a few decks with Istari. It was somewhat close games with the Life-Death deck, but the Titan deck won out. The Death-Air duo with Wings easily loss to the Titan deck, even with a bad draw.

This deck:

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There was that awkward Death-bow they used, and Titans still won (the Death-Rainbow deck only had 2 Reverse Times, and even then it was just ... awkwardly made [it felt funny when I was playing it]).

The Reverse Time deck, however, runs all over the Titans deck. There was one match where the Owl's Eye came out early, but the swarming from the Pharoah I had (Reverse Time + Mummy) couldn't keep up with the Scarabs. And the other Reverse Times were used for the Titans.

Titans deck is reliable, but awful against Reverse Time =/

[glowing ice]

it would be nice if we had more  cards,  by the end of every match i have  around 30 on hand


can i test with some 1 on these decks?

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[QuantumT]

Any chance that somebody could do me a favor and test my deck some for me? I'm not feeling so hot, so I'm not going to be able to do that much testing before the deadline.