Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

[jippy99]

Round 5 - Salvaging, Discarding, Penalties and Converting

Salvaging
2x Fog Shield
3x Pandamonium
1x Lava Golem
6x Reverse Time

Discarding
2x Fractal
3x Lightning
6x Phase Spider
2x Quintessence
10x Wind Pillar
26x Air Pendulum
3x Owl's Eye
6x Fog Shield
5x Azure Dragon
12x Flying Weapon
1x Vampire Stiletto
6x Graboid
6x Nova
2x Deflagration
2x Gravity Shield
2x Gravity Pull
4x Otyugh
6x Druidic Staff
6x Adrenaline
1x Light Pillar
6x Morning Star
6x Sanctuary
2x Purify



Penalties

Converting
10 Air Pendulum -> Wind Pillar
1 Arsenic -> Wind Pillar
3 Pandemonium -> Wind Pillar
1 Lava Golem -> Wind Pillar
3 Titan -> Wind Pillar
2 Acceleration -> Wind Pillar
4 Black Holes -> Wind Pillar




Decks to Salvage from:

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5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5ur 5uv 5uv 5uv 5uv+6

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4sa 4vp 4vp 4vp 52r 52r 55r 58v 5f6 5fa 5ie 5li 5og 5og 5oj 5oj 621 621 621+6

Decks to Discard from:

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55p 55p 55r 55r 55r 55r 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5of 5of 5of 5of 5of 5oi 5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu-50

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5ia 5ia 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5og 5og 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 7tb-25

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5c5 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5c7 5og 5og 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 7mv 7mv 7oe-25

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5l8 5lh 5lh 5lh 5lh 5lh 5lh 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5og 5og 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu-25


Getting this started nice and early this round.

[jippy99]

From that deck, those RTs are looking really good.  If I remember, we tossed ours, we might want them back.

[Newbiecake]

From that deck, those RTs are looking really good.  If I remember, we tossed ours, we might want them back.

I want them back too, since it is a nice touch to any of our mono decks especially against Grabbows and Immo decks.

[truddy02]

This is going to be another round of really tough decisions.  I believe we are only going to be fielding 3 decks next round.  Probably a good strategy will be to play mostly decks that we didn't play last round or variations that require different counters.  Once we see our match ups we will  be able to get a better handle on decks and salvage.  We are going to be able to save a fair amount of cards not in decks so we can probably build, then decide what we still want to keep again.

[The_Mormegil]

We're fielding 3 decks next round. We have 135 cards left in Vault.

When matchups are up, we can decide the decks. The upside is, we probably won't need many pillars / pendulums anymore.

I'm confident we can survive at least two more rounds, perhaps even recover a bit. Seeing how the other teams are playing, most teams will go out in one or two turns.

EDIT: ok, the round is up. First comment: CRAP!
Second comment: what the...
Third comment: we're pretty much screwed over by RNG.

[truddy02]

I put up some discards up here and in the ADU.  We can make a few changes but there isn't a lot of room to make changes if we are going to use the decks we are planning on and also keeping the aether stall available.  We are going to need to do a bit of converting since we have pends for 2 decks only, plus bigger decks mean more pends as well.  I haven't done salvaging yet.  We might be able to keep some RT's but it is going to be tight and we might need to use them fro conversion.  We also have more aether cards than we need for 1 deck so we can convert some of those. 

[The_Mormegil]

I don't think that is correct Truddy. We can only discard cards from our Vault, not from other decks, for our Point.

What I would do is this:

DISCARDING:
1 Light Pillar
6 Morning Star
6 Sanctuary
5 Flying Weapon
2 Fog Shield
5 Air Pendulum

+

6 Druidic Staff
6 Adrenaline
3 Flying Weapon
2 Fog Shield
8 Air Pendulum

+

6 Nova
5 Wind Pillar
4 Air Pendulum
5 Graboid
2 Purify
2 Fog Shield
1 Vampire Dagger

+

2 Gravity Shield
4 Otyugh
5 Wind Pillar
5 Azure Dragon
3 Owl's Eye
2 Flying Weapon
9 Air Pendulum

+

3 Lightning
2 Fractal
2 Quintessence
2 Deflagration
6 Phase Spider
2 Gravity Pull
2 Flying Weapon
1 Graboid


SALVAGING:
6 Reverse Time
3 Pandemonium
2 Fog Shield
1 Lava Golem

CONVERTING:
1 Lava Golem -> Wind Pillar
3 Pandemonium -> Wind Pillars
3 Titan -> Wind Pillars
2 Acceleration -> Wind Pillars
4 Black Holes -> Wind Pillars
1 Sky Blitz -> Wind Pillars
9 Air Pendulum -> Wind Pillars




This way we can field the decks we have decided for (with some minor tweaks), and keep the cards for the aether stall and the reverse times.
We also have 9 Pendulums left in Vault as a backup.

All in all, it's kinda the same as what you did, adding salvaging and conversion, but it is more formally correct as it discards from the Vault and converts from the decks.

[truddy02]

Cards from other decks are in our vault.  I think the vault includes all cards we have access to not just cards that were not played in that round.  I will ask the warmasters for clarification on this though.  Also we want to keep those spiders for an air/aether deck.  They are a key part since most teams play a lot of airborne creatures against us.  Chaining both wings and phase shields is nice when there is a bit of perm control and to last longer and go for deck out.

[truddy02]

Morm you are right.  I missed that noted in round 6 news.  (I was looking for it in round 5 thread).  I will get this fixed so it is correct.  I'm also going to go pretty much right off what you have.  Saving the spiders does seem a bit unnecessary when we have a good quinted dragons deck sitting there that doesn't need wings and spiders.

Edit:  Thanks Morm for putting everything in the ADU.  The only change I made was to keep the sky blitz and put it in QT's deck.  I think it fits well in there.  I converted one extra pend instead.  Your version in the ADU is now the official version.