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R4 discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40342.msg500106#msg500106
« on: May 17, 2012, 07:41:26 pm »
17:entropy Entropy6vs:air Gen. Jenkar
11:earth Earth3vs:air Air2
13:air Air3vs:time Time2
26:light Gen. xdudevs:air Air4
14:air Air5vs:fire Fire3
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Re: R4 discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40342.msg500138#msg500138
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2012, 09:15:07 pm »
 :entropy fights vs :fire :water :aether :time :death Gen :air

 :earth fights vs  :water  :light :gravity :air

 :time fights vs   :fire :water :aether :entropy :darkness  :air

 :light fights vs   Gen :fire Gen :earth :death  :water :air

 :fire fights vs  Gen  :darkness :light Gen  :aether :entropy :time :air
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2012, 11:10:19 pm »
We have 24 ups to burn. 3+3+3+6+9.

Entropy: CC Rainbow. It does pretty well against them, actually. 62% vs Darkness duo. 58% vs Bonium, which would be better with skilled Purify usage. 73% vs trollflags, which is awesome.
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Earth: My theory is that they are not using Dims. It took a hard discard against us and we've also shown that we can beat it with no trouble. Plus, Earth might want Dims against Water or Light. With these conditions, our time duo is our best choice.
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Fire: It tests well against pretty much all of Fire's decks from last round.
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Re: R4 discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40342.msg500630#msg500630
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2012, 11:27:26 pm »
I think the decks are all done.
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Re: R4 discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40342.msg500740#msg500740
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2012, 03:11:53 am »
The sad truth is that we need 7 decks in our vault. We can't overlap cards because a deck is done for when it loses. Here are other options.

Basically we have to run a 1-Dragon Dim OTK. We will have 1 Dragon (upped), 3 PUs, and 1 Fractal. For something with only 1 non-pendulum Air card, it's a pretty decent deck. If they have no way to get past Dims, we outstall, OTK, and win. If they do, it's hopeless. This means we have to get rid of 1 dragon.

We have a few options for our final deck. We could build Immo if we held off 6 Dragonflies and replaced them with pillars. We could make a BoneBolt if we had more shockwaves. Or a Bone Flying OE. We might be able to manage a Light Stall without hurting ourselves too much. I don't think we have other options. I'll look at this in more depth tomorrow.

We're going to have to weaken this round's decks a little to be able to reach 7 full decks, but it will be worth it in the long run when we pick up more losses.

But, whatever. If we still have 7 decent decks by round 4, we're better off than most, if not every team.
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« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2012, 04:11:34 pm »
We're basically required to run a Dim OTK for one of our backup decks. We just don't have enough cards not to use it.

Here are the options for our final deck.

+ Flying OE Light Stall. This is my favorite option because it helps us against denial, which is a common weakness in our other decks.
+ Flying OE Bone Bolt. This is an ok choice. Poison and Bonewall are strong cards, and the Flying OEs support the Bonewall nicely.
+ Flying OE Fire Duo. This can work as a stallbreaker thanks to the resilient Phoenixes and Flying OEs. However, it is slow to attack and slow to set up its defenses.
+ Immo Rush. This is my least favorite option to be honest. We would need to pull 6 Damselflies from our other decks, which would weaken them a lot.
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Re: R4 discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40342.msg500907#msg500907
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2012, 04:36:23 pm »
Ok, I've looked deeper, and this round we only have to eliminate *one* of the 4 decks on the previous list.
I vote Immo.

Actually, the other option is to slim down the darkness duo and rainbow, but only a little. We would have to cut ourselves down to 3 Steals, 4 Graboids, and 2 Momentums in our entire vault.
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« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2012, 05:00:31 pm »
I think vault related things are done.

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« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2012, 04:15:08 am »
Earth Deck:
-1 Dragon, +1 OE.

I remembered that I hadn't actually saved a spare dragon for our Dim OTK. I took one from the Earth deck (which should be able to stall with Wings anyways) and replaced it with an OE to get in a little damage.

I fixed this in the vault and my post, but Jenkar should edit his post to avoid confusion.
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