Round 4 - Main Topic

[DrunkDestroyer]

Ok, looks like we have some thinning to do on the decks then. I'll finish up the testing above anyway to see what we can go with and what we shouldn't, we can work from there.

I don't think we can trade match ups at this point (correct me if I'm wrong), but if things are definitely out of the question (no problem, it happens), we'll just tell Oni that Bloom will be substituting for you.


In terms of Wyrms for dragons, unupped wyrms are quite frankly useless. In that deck, the Rofs need to be upgraded, Devourers, shriekers and cloaks mean that we need to be able to get them out (if needed) as soon as humanly possible.

(6 UGs are impossible, :/ so death is going to need a different deck anyway. I'll try to check the adrenastaves out to see its constistency, because the version I put up can easily be thinned, a lot.)



Edit:  I feel like I missed something, but what I've done is up there, which may or may not help. Also, I'd reccommend taking the adrenastaves out a few times to see how reliable and workable it is without the aiplay - probably -1 scorp, and maybe another mitosis too.

[Legit]

I have an essay to write tonight, so I don't have time for this today, but I'll have some time tomorrow so we should probably finish the decks at some point and then work on the salvaging/discarding/event card tomorrow to get everything ready and checked. I'll be around if you need my opinion or something.

EDIT: Here's something we can use, just like the old typewithme that's really helpful http://sync.in/

[DrunkDestroyer]

I'm all but sold on some decks, and currently those are the ones to play against  ,  and  .
(course, I felt the same about last round, so I could very easily be wrong)

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+ Pendulum        - Scorp

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+ OE      - Sky Blitz
At the moment, I still like the life duo against earth, just as an example I'm showing what we would most likely salvage to pull that one off.

+2 Forest Scorpions
+3 Phase Recluse
+1 Blue Nymph
+3 Air Dragons
+3 Wyrms
+3 Damselflies
(15/18)

+3 Druidic Staffs
+3 Sanctuary
+3 Wings
(9/9)


+3 Adrenalines
+3 Mitosis
+2 Miracle
+1 Immolation
(9/9)

Then, our last two decks would have to be built with what we have left in the vault. Not a huge issue, we have the entropy duo to fall back on in one game - BEs and Antimatters might work well against most of Darkness's decks, and then.. something for death. (We still have a darknedd duo too)

In the above 4 decks, we have a total of 42 pendulums, and 7 pillars. So, mono splash deck (deflags/purifies?) might be the way to go against death. (Unless - I'm not a huge fan of the idea, it would need to be discussed after we get the vault figured out - we wanted to suicide somewhere)


(Also, if any of the decks I am assuming we are going to use are wrong, speak out, and prepare some sort of plan as to how to fix/create a new deck and salvage discard so that everything can be done quickly and efficiently is needed )




In the vault we currently have (Including the bonus cards we get)

32 Wind Pillars. (- 11 after first pendulum conversion)
27 Pendulums (+4 including some basic conversions I've made, +11 from pillars)
10 Dragonflies
9 Wyrms
16 Dragons

6 Fogs, 6 OEs, 3 Shockwaves, 7 Wings , 7 Flying Weapons.

http://sync.in/eDFRLaxHQm is what I've got from Legit's link, I've set up basically the position we are in, its a little easier to use than forum posts in a way because edits are clearly obvious and you can direclty interact more easily - so great for things like salvage/conversion things IMO.

[DrunkDestroyer]

Decks (All decks shown below have been put into the deck compliance tab)
Change these if it makes sense


TuckingFypo vs Onizuka 

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Legit vs MatyrX 

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plastiqe vs AngelMusti 

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Lt. Pervepic vs thenewguy 

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Gen. DrunkDestroyer vs Bhelwos 

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Match up against  Needs a deck!


Things that are important


Deck to play against  . I think due to conversion rules, we can only run a pillar deck to avoid running out of pendulums.
We are currently good with the 5 decks that have been put up, we can play them all (except for whatever the 3/6 check means, PMing Warmasters about it now, in case it reveals something about our deck - I have no idea).

We can un-discard purifies if you think they will be more use than deflags or more air cards or something.

The conversion table is full. This does not mean we cannot convert more cards, just write what we should convert in a post, and we'll PM it to kevkev before the deadline. Unfortunately, we cannot convert the -1 pillar, just leave it there forever , it might even save us from needing to submit more decks per round.
What we really have left to convert are spare death (spiders) entropy and darkness cards (try to make sure that we are left with a working darkness deck though)

And if any of the decks suck, there is still time to fix that.

[kev]

We are currently good with the 5 decks that have been put up, we can play them all (except for whatever the 3/6 check means, PMing Warmasters about it now, in case it reveals something about our deck - I have no idea).

That's one of the formulas that had been deleted and I referenced the wrong cell when I added it back.  The error has been fixed.  Thanks for catching it, DD.

Unfortunately the corrected formula says your deck is out of compliance.  Fortunately you still have 24 hours left to fix it and I know you guys weren't done deckbuilding because one deck is still vacant.

Best of luck this round!

[BC]

Pervepic's deck looks too low on creatures and damage, especially since all the creatures in it are really fragile.

[Legit]

EDIT: Okay, so I did everything we needed. I won't be online until after the deadline, but make changes as you see fit. Also double check. I'm 99% sure I did everything right but there's always that 1%.

I'm in chat right now, double checking everything, seeing what we can use vs death and substitute 2 cards in the entropy duo. Come join me

for reference
9 wind pillars left
0 pends left can't convert

NOTE
I changed the deck vs Underworld. I took out one pend and added one pillar.
I changed the deck vs Darkness. I took out the two illegal cards we didn't have in our vault and added one pend and one maxwell's demon.

I added these changes to the vault. Please make sure to use the correct deck and not the one in DD's post.

IF YOU DON'T LIKE THESE CHANGES, FEEL FREE TO MODIFY THEM. I JUST DID THIS SO IF NO ONE ELSE IS ONLINE, WE HAVE LEGAL DECKS.

VS DEATH DECK: I took DD's suggestion and used the leftover air cards. Not the greatest but we don't have a choice. Again, feel free to change it.

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[DrunkDestroyer]

Thanks Legit, appreciated


@BC, I'm really not sure what you could really add as for damage in the dimshield/wings deck unfortunately - although from what I've seen it actually works better than it should. (Could just be good luck)


As said above, the decks have been changed.
The decks to use this round are on the OP, or here

Decks!!!

DrunkDestroyer

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pervepic

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Robotocracy

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TuckingFypo

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Legit

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plastiqe

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If you guys want to post the times you have planned for the games for some sideline support too, feel free, and if we're there, we'll be cheering your name! (a bit less exciting over the internet, but I promise to use Caps lock, unless that bothers you)

[Bloom]

So am I playing against  or is TF?

[DrunkDestroyer]

I think its being figured out right now, but for the time being:

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,31675.msg448995#msg448995



I've asked ddev, unknown whether team  was part of the disturbance in the vaults. Some of it was making Pendulums with the pillar bonus (not us) - as for the rest, we have no idea.



http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33252.msg449004.html#new

[TuckingFypo]

So am I playing against  or is TF?

Hmm, the only time I guess I have for the match is on Friday (Saturday and Sunday not really :/), but even then I might not make it.  The Round 4 thread says Battle phase has ended!  Or do we actually have one more day, because of the postponement?

If we do then if I don't come Bloom can sub on Saturday with ease.  If we don't, that's ok too...I hope.  I guess if I'm not there by 3:00 AM GMT+0, could Bloom sub in?  That leaves about ~16 hours before the deadline.

[plastiqe]

I'm sure they will extend the round by 24 hours to make up for the 24h postponement.

Edit:  It's 1-0 for me against AngelMusti and I don't anticipate any problems winning the next two matches tomorrow afternoon.  Finally I'm on the right side of a straight up counterdecking.