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Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg195022#msg195022
« on: November 06, 2010, 03:14:48 pm »
Round 3 - Decks

Pervepic
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QuantumT
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Truddy02
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Klaymore
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Gyrodiot
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Dogg
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Glowing Ice
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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg195955#msg195955
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2010, 07:47:44 pm »
I was thinking in my match against  :death a good deck would be flying titans with a few wings mixed in (possibly in place of some of the gravity pulls).  They seem to have several decks that use use heavy CC and/or hiding behind shields.  They also seem to run very few airborne creatures and not much PC.  Wings can block early creatures and discord/ arsenic.  In both rounds they have used a total of 1 reverse time (and it was in a losing deck.)

Maybe something like this(could use some tweaking):
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I would like to test it against some death decks and maybe tweak it.

Since we have gravity pillars anyway for the original version of this I split the pillars and pendulums up.

Expanded to more gravity cards and more wings/grav pulls to get defense up quicker.

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg196005#msg196005
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2010, 08:56:06 pm »
Ok we haven't faced  :earth yet and after looking at the decks they used in rounds 1 and 2 as well as our deck list I though something like that might work:

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Quite similar to one of the deck Perv made on the "preliminary deck list" thread:
- mostly cheap creatures to minimize Reverse Time impact
- pillars split in 3 to minimize EQ impact
- 3 discords to mess up with stone skin/miracle stall
- Maxwells to eventually doom shriekers

Do you think that might work or should I rather go with something else?

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg196080#msg196080
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2010, 10:46:35 pm »
Both decks look fine, but please keep in mind what I said about Air cards. In case of the loss we'll start to lose Air cards, and that begins from the next round.  Converting limit is only12, therefore we can't mess with Pendulums-Pillars too. And feel free to make bigger decks now, if that's possible.

We lost Glory and Queen deck last round, but we can make 2 new decks now. One is close to my deck nr 14 (air-light) and there is also possible to make another Firefly-Hope and also that deckouter I posted somewhere.
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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg196089#msg196089
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2010, 11:09:20 pm »
Klaymore, I would personally lean towards no wyrms, as they're just not worth it unupped. They put a big strain on your quanta, and they don't even do that much damage. I think I might swap them out for 1 OE, 1 dragon, and one wings or something along those lines.

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg196120#msg196120
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2010, 11:47:58 pm »
Maybe this could be a counter against  :aether ?

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Actually I'm thinking about saving this unhappy queen deck once more.
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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg196430#msg196430
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2010, 06:52:48 am »
i was thinking this deck
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and in a lot of the decks, they are using Fractal, so this i think is a good cc, the down side is i need to play    "Owl's Eye" "Flying Weapon" "Quintessence" in 1 turn.  after testing i can pull it off at round 3, with the right draws... im not sure how you guys decide to build decks or how you test them. so help is much approved.  :D 

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg196436#msg196436
« Reply #7 on: November 08, 2010, 06:58:25 am »
Basically the way we test things is just to find time to play against another member of the team using specific decks. I might have time to test at some point, but unfortunately my available time might be low until after Wednesday.

Try and see if people on our team are online when you are and ask if they'll help you test.

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg196493#msg196493
« Reply #8 on: November 08, 2010, 09:56:37 am »
My deck:
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QuantumT you want a  :darkness deck against  :entropy ? I'm expecting this deckouter actually.

Glowing Ice, you shouldn't go with this deck for several reason. First, if this loses, then we lose too many Air cards. Second, if this loses then Bone Walls are basically useless in our Vault and we lose second deck too. And deck against  :aether must be more flexible - there is no guarantee that Dragon plays this deck 3d time. Some usual Phase Shield decks can win that one too.

Klaymore, get rid of those Wyrms there  :). Also, you can use both,  :entropy Pendulums and Pillars. And again, it would be better if there is a bit more  :entropy and less  :air. Titanium Shield is a annoying thing and  :earth has several decks with it. What about a Butterfly?
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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg196507#msg196507
« Reply #9 on: November 08, 2010, 10:48:30 am »
Ok this is the version I tweaked, maybe still some changes needed... I'll have more time to test it soon

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Yeah I thought about the butterfly effect but then I also need to add creatures to put it on... should I make the deck even bigger like +1 BE / +2 dragonfly / + 1 or 2 pillars ?

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg196679#msg196679
« Reply #10 on: November 08, 2010, 06:17:21 pm »
Klaymore, you need one more air card for the deck to be legal.

Also if anyone is on in the next few hours and wants to test decks, send me a PM.

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Re: Round 3 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15254.msg196684#msg196684
« Reply #11 on: November 08, 2010, 06:35:55 pm »
Klaymore, you need one more air card for the deck to be legal.

Also if anyone is on in the next few hours and wants to test decks, send me a PM.
uhhh. i miss something...  we need an   x# of air cards to be legal? im sure i read over it some where. just did not understand.

 

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