Round 1 S/d

[AnnaMall]

Salvage 8 cards

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Salvage 7

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Discard 10

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Discard 9

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Discard 6

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[justaburd]

Salvage 8 cards

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I think I would actually vote for the pends as top priority if we're going for my ghostmare. we might not see darkness for the rest of the war. That said, tons of good options.

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salvaging UGs would let us discard them from the grabbow. rest can be converted at will

Salvage 7

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more catatitans? Alternately this could cover titan discards from our flying titans

Discard 10

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I vote we toss the deck itself and drop the grav pillars and some BH for that effect.

Discard 9

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see salvage comments above.

Discard 6

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see salvage comments above.

[AnnaMall]

From DBH keep the air stuff (15 cards) and optionaly the 4 discos, convert 1 card
From the bow discard 8 pils and a fog
From catatits discard 6 gravity cards
From water salvage the cards needed for catatits and 1 NT (if its nice in huricane)
From time deck I see a few options: UGs, dials or fire pends. Upped dials can be splashed in lightstal for a twist or run a dial UG bow. Pends in order to ignite the UGs we already have (only nova and mark atm).
From ghostmare convert 5 and keep 3 steals
With this break down we are: 2 pils/pends down, -1 fog, lost dbh but kept 4 discos, +1NT, +3steals, +6 dials +2 UG

PS: not sure if the dials are the best choice since they expect UG dials from last war, on the other hand lightstal might see a small boost. Strat can use those for versatitlity maybe?

[Jen-i]

As I see it - we were confident in our decks entering this round, so we should seek to maintain those decks as much as possible.

Discards
1) Discord/BH - Discard 10 Cards - Discard 10 Gravity Cards & Convert 1 - Keep Air Cards and Discord
2) Grabbow - Discard 9 Cards - Discard 8 Air Pillars & 1 Unstable Gas - salvage the UG from kev's win
3) Flying Titans - Discard 6 Cards - Discard 6 Air Pends - 5 to be converted from Salvage - one from DBH

Spoiler for My reasoning for discarding DBH:

We only have 7 in-element quanta sources and have no opportunity to recover the missing three cards this round. Our options are to gamble and hope to Salvage the cards we need for the deck in some future round or to discard the deck and move on. My recommendation is to Discard the Deck and move on.

Salvage
Required Salvage: (14 cards)
1 UG & 13 Random Cards (to be converted)

Possible Salvage: (9 cards)
I see three possible approaches to our Salvage this round:
1) We salvage in-element cards, the idea being buffing our reserves for later in the war.
2) We salvage cards that we already have in decks - the idea being we provide a buffer, allowing us to discard those cards in a future loss and still keep the deck
3) We salvage cards to build a future deck - the idea being we gamble on seeing other components for that deck in future rounds
4) We salvage the "strongest" cards available to us.
5) We mix the previous 4 in some manner.

Spoiler for Available Cards:

In-element Cards we have in Decks:
5 Unstable Gas
3 Flying Weapons

Off-element cards we have in Decks:
4 Titan
3 Catapult
3 Steal
3 Arctic Squid

Other Cards Available:
3 Nymph's Tears
6 Sundials
4 Golden Hourglasses
5 Reverse Time
5 Nightmare
3 Fire Pends
6 Ghost of the Past

Spoiler for Jen's Recommendations:

3 Steal - its one of the best cards we can salvage here - we also already have it in Shadow Dragons, providing us a little more flexibility
5 Unstable Gas - its an additional in-element damage source - it covers our grabbow from some additional losses
1 Nightmare - cause 1 of anything else doesn't seem to make much sense.

Other cards I considered:
6 Sundials - for the same reasons that Mall did
5 Reverse Time - because RT is sexy

[kev]

Note: I haven't looked at anyone else's thoughts on this yet.  Here are my preliminary thoughts.  As I said in chat, we still have five days left to discuss this and our feelings on sdcp could change dramatically once matchups are posted.

Since we're salvaging 23, discarding 25, and we're allowed to convert up to 24, we could (almost) discard 25 pills/pends and convert our salvage to fill those decks back up.  The effect would be minimal.  We'd end up losing the damsels out of DBH but we could easily sub in different cards or QM the damsels back to life.  This is not a bad way to go and we should remember it as an option if we'd like to use DBH in round 2.

But, given that DBH was the deck in which the team had the least conviction, I think we'll probably use this opportunity to strengthen our vault and add pieces of other decks.  I said when I was targeting 11 decks that we'd likely have to bail on one early, and DBH may be that deck.  Here's what I'm likely to wanna do:

Discard 10 from DBH: -10 gravy cards (keep 1 BH)
Discard 9 from grabbow: -8 wind pills, -1 UG
Discard 6 from catatitans: -6 air pends
Salvage 8 from ghostmare: My first inclination was to try to put some pieces in place for Burd's ghostmare.  But if we salvage 8 towards that goal we're still missing 8 cards and we're just not real likely to find them.  Keeping the 5 RTs makes more sense to me (and the other three could be steals or whatever; i see them as likely conversion).  They wreck a lot of what Gravy, for instance, brings to the table.  If we don't use an RT splash in round 2, I could probably be convinced to take the pieces, though...
Salvage 8 from hourglass UGs: +6 UGs, +2 cards to convert
Salvage 7 from water catatitans: +4 titan, +3 catapult (working towards building a 2nd catatitan or keeping filler if first dies.  AWs can be QM'd (this round, even) if we're forced to)

Material vault changes from previous round: lost DBH deck, gained discord splash, gained RT splash, gained good chunk of catatitan, gained 5 UGs, probably need to convert stuff to pends.  Will determine what is converted during R2 deckbuilding.

[AnnaMall]

Another idea is to salvage 5RT and 3 GotP from ghostmare, in order to aquire a few more hitters along with RT. I believe a more viable deck than simple RT splash.

DBH salvation is a mess for air cards.

Other salvage option is steals+RTs for a splash RT deck and reserves for dark duo.

My thoughts atm seems to salvage towards those 2 decks and fill up the wholes with the rest of the cards. Personaly i dont like the UG deck so much, but the time duo is reliable imo

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[Jen-i]

Once we've salvaged 3 Steals from the Ghostmare deck - we only have 5 more cards available from that deck as salvage - that means we cannot gain RT and GotP in significant enough numbers to be worthwhile.

As I see it our options are:
1) 5 UG and a Nightmare
2) 5 RT and something else

[Elbirn]

5 RT and 3 Steals? That'll give us some padding for Shadow Dragons (The steals) and offer us the convenience of RT splashing. ^_^

[kev]

Finalized net card flow according to the Vault doc:
-7 Pill
+4 Pend
+5 UG
+3 Steal
+1 NM
-5 Gravy Pill
-6 BH

-5 Total
Maul's opening post and the standings thread indicate we should've lost two cards.  What am I screwing up?

[kev]

Also most of the decisions were no-brainers.  Ultimately I think we were able to keep nine (or twelve) of:
3 Steal
1 NM
5 UG
5 RT
4 Titan
3 Catapult


I might be oversimplifying a bit.  But ultimately we kept the Steals, NM, and UGs.  Because we didn't have much time for discussion I was the one who made the decision.  Now I find myself wishing we'd done something different.    Thus my push for getting deck recommendations earlier so we have time for an sdcp discussion, which I hope to frame as I did in the top half of this post.