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Re: Preliminary strategy and possible decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13713.msg177080#msg177080
« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2010, 06:30:27 pm »
No, those cards (reflective shield, emerald shield) are too weak and conditional.  Let's try to take more universal and more overpowered cards. We have some decent decks against  :fire and something against  :darkness too, so I guess there is no big need for them. What worries me is that we don't have anything normal against  :earth yet; I probably have to give up the idea of my deck 8 because we don't have enought Dragons and because this deck is dubious anyway. And Wyrms are just terrible, they are not normal replacements for Dragons. Brr, because of the lack of normal hitters, I'm starting to think about the third duo with  :darkness already...

I also edited my deck 7 and took out Wyrms from there. And I modified deck 14, took away some rarity-dragons from there.

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Re: Preliminary strategy and possible decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13713.msg177100#msg177100
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2010, 06:59:09 pm »
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Testing out this deck right now. Quantum comes a bit slow, but really picks up. Mainly designed for anti Hope.
Any suggestions appreciated.

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Re: Preliminary strategy and possible decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13713.msg177125#msg177125
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2010, 07:52:25 pm »
Testing out this deck right now. Quantum comes a bit slow, but really picks up. Mainly designed for anti Hope.
Any suggestions appreciated.
We're one of the elements that I don't think really needs to worry about RoL/Hope. We have so much CC that it shouldn't usually be an issue.

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Re: Preliminary strategy and possible decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13713.msg177162#msg177162
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2010, 08:47:18 pm »
The idea behind the mirror shield was basically if we have 1 or 2 it is a threat that may use it (not that we necessarily would) but I understand it being too situational.  I had an idea about something with maxwells demon and thunderstorms against  :fire :life :entropy, or anybody that tries to rush but I'm not sure it would be feasible unupped because it might take too long to get going.  The idea is that rush decks use cards with either even Atk/HP or higher attack and the thunderstorms can take the evens down.  Another thing we may want to throw in momentums if we are expecting to be up against a lot of phase shields.  They could be thrown in an all air deck and played just off the mark.

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Re: Preliminary strategy and possible decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13713.msg177202#msg177202
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2010, 09:48:21 pm »
Yep, I thought about Maxwells too. They could make good combos with the Wings and kill some Dragons ( :entropy:death:life:water:time for example). Besides,  :entropy has so many annoying cards (early Discords and Antimatters can often alone decide the result of the game), so it is definitely a good idea. About Thunderstorms - actually I found that only against  :light Dragons it could have some effect (along with Maxwells), so it seems like too specific tactics and thing to consider.

Actually it seems like we almost have enough decks by now.  If they are good enough, we should just double them and/or take backup cards to the Vault. Still some testing is necessary though.

Here is a possible Maxwell-Wings deck:
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Re: Preliminary strategy and possible decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13713.msg177390#msg177390
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2010, 03:33:00 am »
Current Vault by element using Pervepic's 14 decks and Klaymore's Pegasus deck:
I will try to keep this updated until the actual vault document is available to use so please note any changes to current decks so I can make the changes here

Total Cards:  407

Air(245 cards)
Pendulum                 120
Pillar                         14
Flying Weapon         15
Owls Eye                  18
Firefly Queen            5
Shockwave               1
Firefly                       17
Azure Dragon           24
Fog Shield                8
Dragonfly                 7
Wyrm                       4
Wings                      12

Death(7 cards)
Arsenic                     1
Bone Wall                 6

Life(16 cards)         
Heal                         1
Empathic Bond         5
Horned Frog             4
Adrenaline                6

Light(21 cards)
Hope                        2
Golden Dragon         6
Morning Star            1
Miracle                     4
Pegasus                  3
Blessing                  5

Darkness(30 cards)
Black Dragon           6
Devourer                 6
Steal                       6
Nightfall                  2
Minor Vampire        5
Dusk Mantle           1
Vampire Stiletto     1
Liquid Shadow       3

Entropy(29 cards)
Abomination          4
Discord                  6
Antimatter             8
Butterfly Effect       4
Maxwells Demon   3
Purple Dragon       4

Earth(12 cards)
Shrieker                3
Earthquake           6
Basilisk Blood        3

Aether(28 cards)
Aether Pillar           4
Lobotomizer          1
Phase Spider         6
Fractal                   5
Dimensional Shield 6
Quintessence        6

Fire(3 cards)
Deflagration          3

Gravity(16 cards)
Gravity Pillar          4
Titan                      6
Gravity Pull            6
     


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Re: Preliminary strategy and possible decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13713.msg177398#msg177398
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2010, 03:53:44 am »
We have 33 cards still available.  We could even have more if we do well in the propaganda.  We could build one more whole deck, double a deck, or add some flex cards.  I think holy lights would not be a bad idea to add because of all the fireflies and queens we have, they wreck darkness and death and can otherwise be used in a FF/FFQ fir emergency healing.  Unstable gas has been suggested, might work well against  :death :entropy :aether because of their powerful shields.  As Pervepic said earlier some black holes will be nice for team rainbow when they come in and entropy if they run novas.  We could definitely use some more deflags, they can run off upped fireflies in a deck that Pervepic uses plus it will be something good to have extra for later if we start losing cards.  I think our starting card advantage is going to help a lot because it gives us many different options for decks.  Any more suggestions?  We can almost fill out our vault other than maybe some deck testing to make minor suggestions to our current decks.

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Re: Preliminary strategy and possible decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13713.msg177500#msg177500
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2010, 09:11:58 am »
I'd like to reevaluate some of the cards that we're taking. Sometime tomorrow I'll go through and evaluate the decks.

In other news, I just won the Eastern weekly. Should I take an air nymph for my prize? If I do, we should add one of those.

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Re: Preliminary strategy and possible decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13713.msg177515#msg177515
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2010, 10:28:16 am »
I'd like to reevaluate some of the cards that we're taking. Sometime tomorrow I'll go through and evaluate the decks.

In other news, I just won the Eastern weekly. Should I take an air nymph for my prize? If I do, we should add one of those.
Thank you, we are going to need some hardcore reevaluation before we actually choose those. If any of those decks looks "softy" and not evil enough, we can just throw it away and take backup cards for the better deck. But still, it is good to have diversity there.


About the Nymph - I don't know, do anyone else have that too? I have one. I guess you can take it then (if you like it of course) and we will add her to the Vault. She can substitute a Dargon sometimes.

We have 33 cards still available.  We could even have more if we do well in the propaganda.  We could build one more whole deck, double a deck, or add some flex cards.  I think holy lights would not be a bad idea to add because of all the fireflies and queens we have, they wreck darkness and death and can otherwise be used in a FF/FFQ fir emergency healing.  Unstable gas has been suggested, might work well against  :death :entropy :aether because of their powerful shields.  As Pervepic said earlier some black holes will be nice for team rainbow when they come in and entropy if they run novas.  We could definitely use some more deflags, they can run off upped fireflies in a deck that Pervepic uses plus it will be something good to have extra for later if we start losing cards.  I think our starting card advantage is going to help a lot because it gives us many different options for decks.  Any more suggestions?  We can almost fill out our vault other than maybe some deck testing to make minor suggestions to our current decks.
Yes, I agree about Deflags. Not sure how dangerous that team rainbow is, but just in case, let's have Black Holes too. I haven't  tested Holy Lights yet.
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Re: Preliminary strategy and possible decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13713.msg177518#msg177518
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2010, 10:41:08 am »
I suggest we get a least a few shockwaves and thunderstorms for CC

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Re: Preliminary strategy and possible decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13713.msg177523#msg177523
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2010, 11:11:54 am »
I really like the idea of being able to use holy lights against death and darkness.
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Re: Preliminary strategy and possible decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13713.msg177527#msg177527
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2010, 11:22:12 am »
Yeah I like the Holy Light too !
About the  :air Nymph it is the 1st I got but I didn't knew about these events and upgraded it : P
What about taking some  :water cards ? Thinking about Toadfish especially but I'm not sure a  :water:air deck would be that great..

Trying a bit with it, came up with something that might be quite strong CC deck: maybe against  :life:fire  ?
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