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Elements the Game => War Archive => War => Events and Competitions => Air => Topic started by: pervepic on October 08, 2010, 10:14:04 am
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I must assign some roles here:
2. Lieutenant
Lieutenant is second in command. He/she can temporarily replace any team member, including the General.
3. Strategist
Strategist is in charge of planning team overall strategy. Each round, Strategist starts a topic that talks about opponents strengths and weaknesses, for example what cards the opponents have left, what kind of decks they like to use, etc.
4. Vault Organizer
Vault Organizer makes sure that the team Vault is up-to-date at all times by adding and removing cards when needed.
5. Deckbuilder
Deckbuilder starts a deck topic for each round. Everyone on the team joins deckbuilding discussion, but it's Deckbuilders job to make sure that all the decks are ready on time and that none of the decks are illegal.
6. Duel Organizer
Duel Organizer is in charge of all team duels happening during a round. If one or more team members are unable to fight their duels, Duel Organizer must inform the General as soon as possible and try to find a replacement.
7. Salvager
Salvager starts the "Salvaging/Discarding" topic. Everyone on the team joins the discussion, but it's Salvagers job to make sure that all discarding and salvaging are done on time.
8. Substitute
Substitute can temporarily replace any team member during duels, and can salvage 3 cards if he or she wins (other players substituting cannot salvage anything).
Well, I don't know you so well, but here are some ideas of mine:
QuantumT - Deckbuilder
Truddy02 - Vault organizer (yous seem to have an eye for the small details :) )
Klaymore - Salvager
Dogg - Duel organizer
Chum3 - Strategist
Gyrodiot - Substitute
Istari. - Lieutenant
Any thoughts, objections, ideas?
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I will be glad to be vault organizer.
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What about others? Everone is happy with the roles I quite randomly assigned? Have you found this section at all?
PLEASE, let's have some communication in here.
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I'm fine with that.
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Fine with me !
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I'm glad to serve you as Duel Organizer, my general!
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I'm fine with this too.
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Btw, if anyone has some thoughts how to improve our propaganda page or have something cool to put up there, let me know.
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There is a bit less than 6 days for us to build the Vault.
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Because of the rule change - Lieutenant can use 3 upgraded cards in the battles - I assigned to QuantumT the role of lieutenant and to Gyrodiot the role of the deckbuilder and to Istari. the role of substitute. Btw, I just found out that the roles must remain the same during the war (I can change only order of players), so if anything is wrong with them, I have only 3 days for makeing changes.
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Ok with the changes.
My deckbuilding skills may not be very high, I'll do my Deckbuilder's job with pleasure (start a deck topic for each round, and make sure that all discarding and salvaging are done on time).
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I was thinking, is there any way we can have some sort of chatroom we can meet whenever we are online? Maybe an IIRC room of some sort (I'm not exactly internet savvy, so I don't know how to set one of those up). Maybe it's a bit much, but it'd be cool if we can have some unofficial place to talk if we just happen to be online at the same time.
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Yes, http://tinychat.com/. This can be used, but I don't know exactly yet how does it work.
Tomatoman, are you active enough and won't dissappear? There is 1 day for me to make changes in team roster.
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Don't forget to vote on this thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,14363.0.html) four our Propaganda Topic. Each vote counts !
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I'm not sure if there's a place for posting times when we'll be playing our matches, but "News" seems appropriate.
Dragoon vs. chum3 is scheduled for Thursday, 9 PM GMT-4 (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=10&day=28&year=2010&hour=21&min=0&sec=0&p1=179)
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Yes, this is an appropriate place enough :).
Truddy will play on Tuesday 14.00 and me 22.00 GMT.
Good luck to alll!
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Hm, i guess my match will go on sometime today. I noticed vagman is on chat a lot, so it won't be hard to schedule a time.
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I just sent a PM to Tinkady. He's in GMT-7 and I'm in GMT+2, but fortunately, I'm on holidays...
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First victory of war 2 goes to air truddy02 2- brion 1. Thanks to pervepic and for recommending the deck and QuantumT for creating the deck. It was a great counter. The only game I lost was because I made a stupid mistake. After pervepic warned me of antimatter I played a dragon and got it antimattered right away. I panicked because I was down at the time and ended up battling back into it. I probably would have won if I would have held off the dragon to the end. We get to salvage 6 cards from an entropy deck, which is nice since we have 2 decks that use it.
Edit: Nice start for the whole team. 4-0 start.
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Just won my match against YeliyaYue :life 2 - 1
no quantum and hand cloughed with fractal first game, could have easily won 2 - 0 without that but anyway CONGRATZ to our beloved General for the deck idea ! ;D
In the end I didn't had the Lobo for forest spirits and Nymphs but Net from spiders + wings got his army totally useless 8)
We are making some good start and our vault already way bigger than others will be even more pumped up great job guys !
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After 3 desyncs i won vs vagman 2-0, so we'll get to salvage 9 cards there :)
Thanks very much, pervepic, for having such a great idea for decks and thank you for testing my deck with me prior to the match. Vagman did go entropy/darkness indeed.
Thanks to whole team air for their support and cheering! :D
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My shields got Deflagrated :p But I won ! My Dragons (well, 2 of them) died by Lightning. But I won !
Thanks Pervepic for the deck ^^ We have now... 6+9+9+6 = 30 cards salvaged, at least !
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Grats to winners! Not a bad start, huh :)
Btw, Istari do you know your playing time already?
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Yeah, both of my matches are tomorrow
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Well pervepic beat kurohami 2-1 and I beat memorystick 2-0, so notch 2 more wins for team air.
6-0 start! Good work everyone!
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Can someone explain to me why the War spreadsheet says we got 9 Penalties? Kind of confused to what it means
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No idea either ???.
Edit: as Zeru said, those are our bonus cards :) So no problems.
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sigh, we have our first lost against team Darkness, they had a entropy antimatter deck with Nymphs, went first all 3 games and lost 2 by deckout.
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And I win my sub match
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Hmm, stupid bad luck with the Queen deck indeed. You both had 31 cards and just luck decided the result. And I personally took out the 32-th card from that deck. And I didn't put Owl in, but I should have put it, since they had only 1 Steal there. Oh Well..
At least we had more luck with the second deck choice :)
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It's pretty silly that the matches you lost were literally decided by a coin flip. So definitely not your fault at all. Nice job on the subbing though.
Even so, 7-1 is a pretty good start methinks.
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And I win my sub match
:D That made me very happy. I was watching the matchup (I often go to chat as a guest), and when I saw Titans vs. Dimensional Shields, the odds looked good. An early Lobotomizer could have messed things up, but fortunately that didn't happen.
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I'm more disturbed by the fact that their deck choice was so weird, they could have chosen it becuase they expected Firefly/hope, but if it was one of the several other decks we had or we had some CC, we would have won.
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Air matches are done. Just lost to Dragoon :-[
Air is 7-2, tying with Entropy for win-loss ratio.
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Heh, no problem. We have backup anyway. A bit beyond my understanding in this match was that not only Dragoon played exactly the the same deck that counters yours among all possible decks they had, but he also upgraded exactly those cards which were needed to counter our deck. If you ask people who prefer upgrading Towers instead of Earthquakes, I guess you don't find many.
But you all were great in first round and grats for the good results :)
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Yep good work everybody. I think we showed that air is not a team to be taken lightly.
Chum3 I think after this round is finished, you and I should go through and catalog all of the decks used by the various teams. This will give us a good idea of what cards they have available and what decks they seem to use. I'll help you with it because it will be a sizable task.
On a side note, I just became a full member. Check out my sweet new avatar! ;D
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Congratz QuantumT ;D
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Nice, QunatumT and grats. And absolutely great if you and Chum could do that. I was thinking also to make some kind of cataloge too, but not before our next opponents are known. It's just too huge task to make that for all of them and actually it is possible that we won't meet some teams during the War at all. Besides, you should also take into account whom they met and what they could won from the opponents :) . And what concern predicting, then I am also very much interested about the persons who are the authors of decks.
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I can help a bit with that, I'll try to catalog a bit about Team Time, and work on others when I finish.
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Great, but should we start a new topic like "deck catalog" or something? If anyone of you is already working with this, you probably should start a new topic then.
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It's probably not a bad idea to wait like you suggested, as there is some chance that we don't meet some of the teams at all during the war.
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I was just about to get underway with logging various teams' decks. Will post what I have as soon as possible.
On a random note, seems like Entropy and Earth enjoy using that "Scrambled Shriekers" deck.
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hay guys, just got in :air forums, looking around if some 1 can bring me up to speed on where to start that would be awesome
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A good start would probably be to look over the preliminary decks thread, particularly the first post. It should give you a general idea of the kinds of decks we have available.
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hay guys, just got in :air forums, looking around if some 1 can bring me up to speed on where to start that would be awesome
Welcome, glowing ice! Like QuantumT said, take a look at the preliminary decks. If you have any ideas of you own, don't be afraid to share them.
You only missed Round 1. Nothing much happened that the standings can't tell you.
Just read the War rules if you haven't already, get your deck prepared for this round, and have fun!
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Well my opponent sent me a pm first duel day I believe and I replied, either that day or the next and haven't heard back since, I was planning to do the fight Friday, but the lack of a response worries me. Any suggestions?
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Well my opponent sent me a pm first duel day I believe and I replied, either that day or the next and haven't heard back since, I was planning to do the fight Friday, but the lack of a response worries me. Any suggestions?
Since matches only started about 12 hours ago, give them a bit more time to respond. I'd probably give them at least another 12 hours before I worried too much. Maybe send them another PM.
Also, make sure your mailbox is set to save outgoing messages, so that if the match ends up not happening, you can show that you tried to make it happen. This applies to everyone really.
If you don't hear from them in the next 12 hours, PM one of the warmasters.
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chum3 vs. valuka sheduled for today: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=11&day=4&year=2010&hour=15&min=0&sec=0&p1=179
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My match with GG should happen at about http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=11&day=4&year=2010&hour=20&min=0&sec=0&p1=770
Off to bed for now (which is way fail. It's 4am here ???)
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Grats QuantumT for a win :) .
And guys, 1 thing I would like to say: please play carefully and if you can, check over all the opponents decks before battles. I mean, as a rule, if you see :darkness mark and especially along with Devourers, don't play Discord. And in case of :earth don't play all the Pendulums-Pillars out at once if there is like 3 of them in the beginning. Play 1-2 at first.
And congratulations to Dogg too! :)
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Thanks chief!
<---- HaPpY!
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Also, EVERYONE take screenshots before you finish off the match. I can not stress this enough. If some discrepancy occurs you could have a match nullified or even lose.
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Gonna remember that for the future matches. I usually only take ss when we seem to be desyncing.
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My match vs. Rastafla is happening right now if anyone is online and interested.
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*goes to watch that match and cheer for you laud*
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My battle is on Friday, so the match will be on.
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Wow, I won vs. Rastafla making us 2-0 vs light this round. I'm sure that makes the team happy after xdudes comments about us becoming predictable. I also won the last game on my very last card, so adding the extra dragon was absolutely the difference between winning and losing.
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Damn sure makes me very happy! Now, we might be predictable, but there was nothing xdude could do about us, still. Congrats truddy! Crazy intense games for me to watch since i didn't know hove many more cards were in your deck, so i prayed that u have that "one more on top".
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Grats Truddy :) Already now we could say that this round still turned out fine for us. I especially liked Truddy's decision not to play Hope and save quanta for Dragons.
What concerns Xdude, then he seems to spam that kind of comments everywhere and we shouldn't take him seriously. How does he knew our predictability already before round 2? Sry, but that's just stupid, if to express mildly. He is just afraid of something.
Actually, I added 1 more Dragon after testing Truddy's deck with QuantumT and our testing was mainly agains the same EQ deck :light played. That would conclude this talk about predictbility :) .
I also agree about screenshots. Actually I won one desynced game too and played against AI until the end, but in my case desync. occured too early and I couldn't apply for anything.
And good luck Istari and Gyro! :darkness already had enough luck against us, now it should be our turn.
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Grats Truddy :) Already now we could say that this round still turned out fine for us. I especially liked Truddy's decision not to play Hope and save quanta for Dragons.
What concerns Xdude, then he seems to spam that kind of comments everywhere and we shouldn't take him seriously. How does he knew our predictability already before round 2? Sry, but that's just stupid, if to express mildly. He is just afraid of something.
Actually, I added 1 more Dragon after testing Truddy's deck with QuantumT and our testing was mainly agains the same EQ deck :light played. That would conclude this talk about predictbility :) .
I also agree about screenshots. Actually I won one desynced game too and played against AI until the end, but in my case desync. occured too early and I couldn't apply for anything.
And good luck Istari and Gyro! :darkness already had enough luck against us, now it should be our turn.
I do like our call on Rastafla. We called that exact deck. Who's predictable now, hmm? :P
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My match should happen today at GMT 21:30-40.
Miracles can happen, I have two of them in my deck :p
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Hopefully you won't need Miracle to win that :)
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:D awesome win Istari. ended :darkness winning streak
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Grats again Istari :)
Something nasty jumped into my mind tonight:
5lk 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 620 620 620 620 622 622 622 622 622
This one is in the level of an idea yet, but we can use it as a surprise-killer :)
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I lost my match against RavingRabbid, substituting for unit :( . No creatures were played... he has more Miracles than me :p
5-4 for Team :air !
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Looking at the decks other team played this round there is actually quite some using :air cards !
Just to bad they most likely will never use these against us and they just gona end up being discarded :'(
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Match with girlsgeneration should be happening today: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=11&day=11&year=2010&hour=21&min=0&sec=0&p1=179
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I'm very sad to annouce that, after an epic battle... I lost against :water the Dictator. :(
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Damn lost against Dreggs... Even with split pillars he had EQ plus devourers and stole discord first game... not the best draws either :(
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Sry to say, but considering the amount of time I could devote to this round, this outcome is not surprising. Preparing for the round should go like this: we should take into account all possible decks they could use against us, then make predictions, takeing into account other things as well - like what they could win and what are their other opponenst and how they are used to think; then build possibly best counter (which is not an easy task) and then test decks against concrete decks. This takes at usually at least 1-2 whole days, yes, whole days. I didn't have this time for this round. And we didn't predictions almost at all and testing was minimal. It is just impossible to win like that.
Now, if we have anything to play with, one of my annoying deadline is already passed and my work is done, so hopefully I have time for the next round.
Ok, good luck who hasn't played yet.
Grr, :time played their Steal-deck AGAIN and Discord was outplayed and stolen AGAIN. Why are you keeping doing this?
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it is quiet in here, Pervepic if you are going to be off or not have time to play, can you at least assign rolls to all of us so we can spend the time we need to make decks that will work? :)
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I have time to play, no problem. And of course everyone can make decks, but then one must keep in mind that everybody could have more or less normal decks. And we shouldn't start with that before opponents are known.
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And, I lost :(
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Ouch. Painful round for team air. We'll have to sit back and reevaluate our strategy and see what we can do differently.
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This was a bad round, no doubt, but we only lost 18 cards for each loss. Next round is 24 and every other round is 30. Teams have now pretty much shown what they have. From here out the teams that will do the best will be those that strategize the best. Chum3 has done a great job with the deck archives so the knowledge is available. I propose we use some sort of system once the new matches come out. Each player evaluates the element they are facing and does the same for 2 other elements we face that round. This gives us 3 different views on strengths, weaknesses, what cards they have, what will work, what won't work. Right now pervepic is doing a lot of work putting together decks etc. He has done great work and everyone has made contributions but if each one of us can do in depth analysis on just a few of the matches(I'm sure pervepic will continue to help on all) then we can be more prepared than all other teams in the coming rounds when it really counts. This is just a suggestion and I am interested to see what everyone else thinks of it.
Also full member woohoo.
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Grr, :time played their Steal-deck AGAIN and Discord was outplayed and stolen AGAIN. Why are you keeping doing this?
Well, you weren't there. I didn't do it in the first match, but in the second, knowing his deck, i saw that discord is my only chance to win vs him - and a very small chance indeed. Reverse times were just too strong against those expensive antimatter, therefor he would always have more damage on the table than me. Was a stressful match to play, knowing i had no chance, even with my luck.
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Dogg, sorry but I don't understand what are you talking about. He just won first game 4 HP left. But fine, I accept your decision.
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Like Perv I didn't had much time for this round and I'm sorry, the bad results we had this round are not that surprising (and quite unfortunate... quite some very tight looses) but I'm confident we can change that next round :)
Other teams might get too confident against us and think that our good start was only luck, let's prove them wrong and dominate this next round ! ;D
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First game i had a very good hand vs his not so good. Second one i had a bad hand with very low quanta and decided to try and go for in my opinion only chance. It didn't work... I am very sorry and very sad that my streak ended this early, but i still think i made the right decision given the situation.
Great respect to you, Pervepic.
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woohoo. 50 mins tell battle round 4! ;D
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woohoo. 50 mins tell battle round 4! ;D
Alrighty then. We're all rooting for you. Show them what Team :air is made of!
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bummer... my duel buddy can be on for the next 24-48 hrs.
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It is already getting quite irritating how :time manages to bring exact counter every single time agains us. How the hell did they know that we don't have perm control in this time? We almost had that all the time against them. How they knew that Truddy doesn't play that :darkness deck and choses hope instead? Really, I still must admit that this is completely out of my understanding, again. How did they know that we don't change decks last time, in previous round (and they didn't change deck too)? Just crazy...
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To lighten the mood, i just won my match in some extremely close games out of which i lost the first one. QuantumT was a great support throughout my match.
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Great, and grats to winners :)
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Good job Dogg, won my match with EXTREME luck too
The semi-random solo Lobo in the frac deck was greatest idea Perv ;D
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Sorry I couldn't be much help yesterday, I was sick with the flu :(
No idea when I'll do my match atm
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Yaay, we're getting right back on track! GO :air :air :air :air :air :air :air :air :air :air :air :air :air FOREVER!
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Guys, one thing is VERY important with Chum3's match. If they do play pestal like we expect them to, nobody say anything about not having anything better to play against it. We don't want to give free license to :aether and :darkness to beat us for the entire rest of the war.
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Great job guys. Its nice to win the close ones. As for :time they have me completely confused. I am surprised they would play this deck. The other 2-3 we tested for this match up probably would have won. They just seem to really predict our decks somehow. Between this matchup and the early EQ match up they have been somewhat surprising. I guess next time we match up against them we will need to look at it from some different ways. I still think the deck QuantumT is playing will be a good matchup for us though.
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My match will start in a bit (10 mins or so)
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And I won my match, we are 4-1 now
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Ok, it's official. I call bulls**t on team time. Not only did they happen to play a new deck that was a decent counter to mine, smokefree had the most amazing draws I've ever seen both games. Both games he drops 5 pendulums from his opening hand (which isn't so odd by itself, with 14 in the deck) then never plays a single one again. He has a deflag to slow me down both times, and several RTs to bounce any dragons I play. His draws were too good to be legitimate.
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Well at least time is losing their other matches so I guess hopefully we can avoid them more in the future. In good news according to my calculations we are currently up a few spots to 4th and making a pretty solid run this round. Also :aether has never used fractal devourer more than twice in any round and they have already used it twice this round so we may avoid it this round.
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The way I suspect they're getting information about our decks is through spectate. Technically when we're testing, which we do for a while, anyone can spectate on our matches.
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Yea, quite exact counter again. Look at the amount of quanta producers - 14. And look at the quanta producers in the deck which played against Truddy - 12 (and despite of expensive Phase Shields). Means that Devourers were pretty much expected. Not to speak about that they were sure that Truddy doesn't play Darkness. And not to speak about that they were sure that we don't change deck in our previous round. And not to speak about that they had an exact counter to our deck before that. And not to speak about their Earthquake deck, which was the best counter among all possible decks they could have. If all this is a luck, then this is a crazyest luck I have ever seen. No other team (which I have played against) have ever come close to that kind of luck in this war or in previous war. Is it possoble that they were spectating somehow?
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Damn, now i'm also starting to get really paranoid. I can imagine myself talking to my psychiatrist about our time match ups next time i see her. That's my biggest problem in life right now, lol xDD
On a more serious note, if i got it right, glowing ice, chum3 and gyro still need to play their matches.
Do you guys know when will your matches occur and can u post it here?
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lol Dogg, strange things sometimes just happen. No need to take that too seriously and no need for psychiatrist (yet :) ). And lets hope the best.
Ok, it would be nice to know when the other games will happen, so we could spectate or replace if someone is missing.
Btw, don't worry, I don't suspect anyone of you giving away information on purpose. That's excluded.
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my match will be starting soon. i will announce in chat
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lost my match :(
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Not a bad round at all. Pervepic, i just noticed that in our member roles thread still says that tomatoman is our rookie. You should replace the vegetableman with glowing ice, just to be on the safe side.
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Thanks, done.
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;D i feel loved
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Round 5 first result... I lost against :darkness . Steals, untargetable creatures, quite useless Discord...
A near-perfect counter. I'm sorry :(
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I lost as well to a poison/diss shield stall. Bad matchup for me as well, hopefully the other matches go better.
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Starting now
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They had a time mark :(
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and a win! for team :air it was a deck out match but it got me a 2-0 and it was down to the wire for round 2 fun fun. but also sad, coin toss games suk if your the one losing.
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I got death back for you Istari, so we split with them.
Go :air!
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And i bring one more win to our team!
GO :air !
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sweet. sad we had so-many loses, but at least we can keep moving forward.
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i know this has nothing to do with the war but grats on your Tournament win QuantumT
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Grats for winners and Istari, if Klaymore doesn't show up, could you play with Sir Valimont? He said that he is online today at 21 GMT.
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I will be studying at home whole day so I should be able to have my match
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Fine then. If there is someone who wants to be left out (because of lack of time, illness or whatever) for the next round, let me know. Otherwise I won't make any changes in the arrangement and people in the last places in the roster will be left out first. Not sure yet how many decks we can make yet though (1 win against :entropy would be very important).
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whats up with your match Klaymore? i think a rematch is in order but im stell new to how things work around here, from what i see you have proof that you won, he dont, so no-mater how it played out it look's like 1-1 next Match is winner. that seems fair. by way of screen shots and what was explained.
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Ok well Sir Valimont just came back a few min on the chat, when I told him that I was busy for the next hours and if he wanted to have the rematch after that he answered that he was not back to have the rematch because he's busy too, and that he think I should consider giving him the win...
To be honest, that is what I thought doing at the very start, since it was getting into an annoying argument and since their deck has a clear advantage over ours (althought I won 2nd match it was very lucky).
But now I have to say that the guy kind of got on my nerves and I don't feel like doing so anymore, even if rematch is probably lose anyway..
I Did not wanted to take the decision by myself since the outcome affects the whole team.
What you guys suggest I do?
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I think you should play him. Isn't that the point of war, to play the game. His deck is not exactly a perfect counter. It requires many cards to get going. If we didn't have a healing deck I would say it is beat but it is possible for our deck to beat theirs. Don't give in to someone who whines until they get their own way. If you do, you just encourage them to continue to act that way.
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You are under no obligation whatsoever to give him the match. If it turns out that you don't have time to finish it, then one of us will sub for you. We could probably make a case for full salvage since he just bailed before the match was decided.
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Just went and read all 3 pages of SV post. Just lol... No you should not even consider giving that guy the win. What a nerve on him, I mean, seriously. For all we know, he might have even saw that he is going to lose the match he thought is a sure win (unexpected hope card) and then left the game. So many people out there accused you of cheating. It is just ridiculous. The possibility that he cheated is much much greater. My opinion is that he should be kissing warmaster's feet right now cause of the decision. It could have easily been ruled as your win also, since no one will be able to find a way how he could have won that match. Guaranteed.
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No chance of giving it away, especially after this bs :). And we need wins. I even didn't read all this because for me its clear enough. Now it's basically 1-1, but he was lucky because of desync and therefore its still 1-0. If he doesn't have time, then someone has to replace him. If noone replaces him, then we can apply for a win. Just send a formal PM to SV and copy it (no reason to wait in chat all the time) and wait. But come back before deadline ends. Finding replacement is their business, not ours.
Btw, PM to Warmaster too and say that you already asked him to play yesterday and PM-d him today too.
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go for the rematch win or lose. where here to fight for a win not debate and cry for it. if we win it yay team :air . lose good job team :entropy .
ps, im 3-1 this war.... he gave me the 1 loss. KICK HES ASS!!
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Klaymore, if you don't want to deal with Sir Valimont anymore (which is completely understandable), I'll step in and sub for you. At this point, I'm pretty sure that ddevans will allow me to do this at no penalty, but even if he doesn't that's ok.
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Thanks for the support guys :)
SV sent me a PM today asking if I concede the win and I answered that no.
To be honest I have a really busy starting week and like you said QuantumT: this guys is making loose my nerves so I'd be really grateful if you can sub for the rematch.
Be carefull to get as many bonds out as you can the earliest to regen enough, like I did in second match.
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=/ Hm.
On the bright side, we can have a snazzy name for this. I like the idea of adding "-gate" at the end of it, like the Watergate scandal. What about Voodoo-gate? Or what about a portmanteau. The entropair affair?
(Don't mind me, I like injecting a little humor into stressful subjects.)
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Yea, it was a risky decision from my to play this Queen deck against :entropy but not against :death where it would have won. But noone could foresee those stupid bugs and I really wanted a win against :entropy, to get some Discords and just beat them. Now things are getting easier for us, because there is not many choices anymore.
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Apparently it's ok to force teams to autolose. This has me seriously reevaluating my desire to be in the war in the first place. If this is how things are going to be run, then I don't know if I care to compete.
Here are 2 screenshots showing that a desync, which according to the conditions going in was supposed to result in a regame.
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd106951/ss2cut.jpg)
A few turns later...
(http://imageplay.net/img/m7Gbd106952/ss3cut.jpg)
Note that my air quanta has not increased in 2 turns.
If evidence that things like this are happening are ignored, then there is a serious problem with the way the war is run.
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Well, sometimes you just get screwed. It sucks for us but what happened happened and all we can do is prepare for the next round and prove that we are good enough that we can overcome something like this. It looks like the ruling is final and there is nothing we can do about it. Lets move on, win the war and not dwell on a shitty situation.
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Obligatory "nooo you can't leave Team Air during War, QuantumT" post.
Like truddy said, this does put us in a bad situation. But we'll still do well.
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I completely agree with QuantumT. This is just ridiculous. I so lost my will to compete... It was great having a 4-1 score for me and all and now i just don't care, kind of... And we are supposed to autolose 30 cards cause of something like this and i lose the chance to play again later on because i am lower on the fighters list??? This sux big time... I don't wanna enter some kind of roid rage, but i would so go on a strike for this. It is completely unfair and could have been handled much better, and i am not about to change my opinion on that matter.
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Yea, I and others too saw that, but the main opinion was just "lets move on with that, doesn't matter much if there is bugs or not". Then there was a second win criterium of SG: in case of desyncs, lets give a win to the deck more HP left in the moment of desync. Buth those unhappy rules were against us, or rather, there even weren't rules what to do in case of bugs before and those were made just today, but only few people seemed to support the idea me and QuantumT (and actually Sir Valimont too) supported - to give both teams a possibility to go on without losing anything. In any case it was a difficult situation and any solution would seem unfair in different perspectives. Yes, shit sometimes happens and we are not in position to make changes ourselves. At least we had a possibility to replay game; even that was under doubt first.
But QuantumT and Klymore too, if you are tired of this bs, I can give you a free round, but no need to go away, it is just imortant to know that we did the best we could and our final position is not so important compared to that.
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Wish i was there to support you too... At least, they could have made it so that both teams discard 15 cards and salvage 3 from other ones deck. Doesn't seem unfair to anyone. Never mind, i was just now in chat and i am now assured that there is nothing we can do about this as our votes just don't count around here. It is very hard for me to accept that, but i will. Ok, lets go on with the war, said the Dogg! I hope i will still play some matches.
GO :air !
Pervepic for president!
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Sigh, I can play. I won't have very much time to help with prepping though, because I spent 18 hours trying to get this dealt with, and I'm now behind on several projects I need to finish. But losing my upped cards would be another thing that air just doesn't need right now.
I started the event, and I'll finish it. I will pause to consider whether it's worth it or not the next time I join a several months long event though.
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I did some figuring and it looks like we are going to be able to play 6 matches this round. It appears that Dogg will end up being the one screwed the most in this by not being able to play next round. I am willing to give up my spot this round to allow him to play if there is still time to do so. I enjoy the deckbuilding and strategizing aspects the most anyway. We could work out some sort of every other round rotation or if you want you can permanently move me down. As far as I can tell he is at least as good as me at playing a deck. I don't feel he should have to get the brunt of the punishment for a bad situation. I will be dedicated to coming up with strategy and testing decks next round and will play if/when you would like me to in the future.
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Same as QuantumT: I definitely still wanna play in next rounds for sure: till victory ;D
Also agree to let Dogg play a later round instead of me if that is possible/his wish.
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Wow, thanks guys! This team is lovely. Not that much of a problem if i don't get to play more matches. I am still going to contribute to our team any way that i can, and i will still test with you guys. Wouldn't want for any of you to miss on a match, but i am really thankful for your offer. Once again, it feels good to participate in all this. Teamwork till the end!
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OK, Truddy is in the last place for the next round and he can rest and Dogg is 6th, so he can probably play.
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WE'RE STILL IN FOURTH! (by a hair)
Yes, I know that the ordinals don't say much, since the gap between third and fourth is huge, but woohoo top four once again :D
Also, if anyone who's not in top 6 slots for playing wants to have a go this round, just say so. I'm in the same mindset as truddy, in that I don't mind sitting out for a round (but I still have the time to play if no one wants the spot).
EDIT: Woah Round 6 brackets came out pretty fast (just as I posted this, pretty much). Truddy is currently marked as playing a game.
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Nvm, let the matches go as they are scheduled. I suppose air shouldn't make any more "drama" so soon.
I can see us going 5-1 this round - the oracle Dogg has spoken!
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My oracle was the Firefly queen
"Inspiration will come today, but don't hold your breath. Your mind will be a fertile womb for numerous, brilliant ideas."
Sounds pretty good.
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I made a simple request that truddy and dogg be swapped. I made it clear that it was only a request though. If it happens, cool. If not, we'll be ok.
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I don't know, maybe I swapped names too late, but I hope thats not a big deal.
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Damn it, missed a meal again... Means i am not allowed to touch the computer for the next 36 hours... Hope i don't miss too much :S
EDIT: lol, nvm. I was pretty sure i was going to throw up the last meal, but i managed to keep it :O God bless those pills... Guess i'm here tomorrow, yay! xD
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Oracle said ideas would come fast an furious all day today, man this has to be a good sign.
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Well, i'll be damn. 2 days in a row i get parallel universe and oracle says that today the world will be just out of reach... I just cannot see the way fro this to be a good sign ::)
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Ok I see suicideing , but did you have to give them more discords?
AND Black Holes? Dios.
This suicide was probably the worst decision of the entire War.
For anyone else to have any chance of winning, every team must force Entropy to face their toughest decks. Handing them freebies means they just get stronger. You can't beat them by giving them stuff, and there's no prize for second place.
Ouch
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Istari, it's also important to remember people don't want to finish in last place either.
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Not his post. I think he was just pointing out how harsh the comment was.
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Just a reminder, we have just 1 more day left for duels, please make sure that you play in time.
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Okay. Both :gravity vs :air matches haven't occurred yet, due to the fact that each side is missing a player.
Tomorrow, if cebra still doesn't show up, I will personally substitute him and play against QuantumT.
Meanwhile, I ask team :air to find a substitute for Klaymore, as I have not seen him on chat for the past three days.
Just so its noticed, I might be able to sub for Klaymore, not sure at the moment.
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We should make sure to reorder the members who will be playing in Round 7 before Round 6 is over. Like I said before, I wouldn't mind sitting out if someone wants to play.
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Ok, I'll make rearrangement there. I promised Dogg a game and I think that Glowing Ice should have one, because he had game 1 less.
And I really don't understand that "doesn't show up in chat" thing, because you have to PM to your opponent first and make an appointment. Why it is so hard to do so?
Please don't mess with those things, because we really need cards now.
And Istari, it could be nice, if you could check few hours before deadline if matches have occurred and make a replacement if needed.
Although it is complitely possible to go with 4 decks and 148 cards (as we have now) to the next round.
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I would like to win a match in the next round, indeed ;)
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What do I do if it doesn't look like 918273645 is going to show up? like to get an answer now so I don't have to worry about it then?
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Just play with Napalm or GG.
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I'm going to call this very, very unlikely. I think Rav probably included a suicide or two from Team Fire and if he saw our vault I think he'd make some revisions. I think we're gonna turn some heads this round, xdude. Keep an eye on jmdt's matchup. ;)
Damn it, i let him get into my head with this. Now I'm pretty nervous about my matchup.
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Don't worry about that comment, Dogg. It's just the trash-talking part of war. It's fairly cookie-cutter template with how these comments go. Like Mad Libs. Here, I can even roll play as kevkev:
Team Fire is going to win this war because we have [insert Team Fire member]. We are going to [insert not-so witty pun about smoking/burning/scorching the competition]. We're going to beat [insert team name] and make people pay attention to us! [insert vague and mysterious comment about what Team Fire wants to happen.] We won last war and we are going to win again!
and etc. I think you'll be just fine :)
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Hehe, I really like that comment, chum :D
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and im back... looks like just in time. too :D loads of work past few days... not im free
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Just noticed, this duel phase is only 3 days long (probably because there are so many less battles going on).
Good luck everyone!
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Yaay, an unexpected win vs fire!
GO :air !
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Beautiful tactics there; grats Dogg :)
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Really, no need to use subs too early if an original player has a possibility to play. Well, seems that we won't have that kind of problems in next rounds anymore :(
Glowing Ice, when you and Dragoon will play?
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Yeah, bad move on my part. My apologies to QuantumT and everyone else. I should have just let QuantumT and/or Pervepic work that out.
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Yeah, bad move on my part. My apologies to QuantumT and everyone else. I should have just let QuantumT and/or Pervepic work that out.
Don't worry about it. 10 men gave you entirely skewed information, and you didn't have anything else to go on. I doubt my 3 upped cards would have made any difference here any way, so it's not too big a deal.
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Yea, no problem Truddy, it didn't matter much anyway. Seems that whatever arrangement of decks we have used, it would have been hard to escape those 3 losses. At the same time :light enjoys 2 suiciders that teams played against them >:D . Maybe we could beat :time finally...
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Damn it :( And i was convinced i had the worst chances in team air this round.
Btw, i had a really weird dream last night that i was substituting for someone. I hope i won, can't remember :O
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my match will take place at 1pm -6gmt if im not there some one will have to sub if hes not there some one will sub hem. we will try to do it sooner but 1pm is are deadline.
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And it would be good if Istari. could be here if sub if needed.
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Unfortunately I can't be on then, I'm available a couple of hours after that, but not then.
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I suppose now that Glowing Ice meant rather 7 GMT PM.
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:( and a lose for me. sry guys. 1 question. what stops some 1 from not playing and leting the match time out at start if thy get a bad hand.. cus round 2 i started awesome. but he times out and we have to rematch, thin i get junk for cards and he plays 3 pendulums and 1 tower,
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Generally the game will auto advance at the end of turn, but it won't time out. It only times out if there's a connection issue.
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I would like to thank you all for participating, you were a great team :) . I don't think that you were "semi-fail" as Xdude called team :air, despite of the fact that many of you were relatively new. And what concerns Xdude who was always against us from the start, talking bs and acting like an ah, you will always have a chance to vote against him in trials and in council voting...
Overall I guess that we were more unlucky than lucky; there were some crucial moments of unluck that were decicive and which took too much energy. After those it was somehow harder to make a comeback and come out from the circle of dissappointment. Also, I didn't have so much time I wanted; there was a correlation between bad rouns and my lack of time. In the final round there was nothing we could do better though.
Now war pretty much over for us, final position doesn't have that big importance; I think that I'm still gonna play the next round for myself, since upped cards could make small difference.
Soon our section will be public, so if someone wants to delete something, you have that chance now. I guess that I will use that possibility in some cases.
And good luck for the next adventures!
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So... we're against Zeru. Entropy Master. Yeah...
But I won't lose any hope ! I've been very proud to battle for Team :air this War (as I won't anymore).
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I'll wait for our survival, until the final match, to say some more stuff. Round 8 may not be the last !
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I don't think this will be our last round.
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Ah, it was very nice serving team air. This was really a great experience for me!
Hey, i think i lost only one match this war :D and it was versus team time, so it doesn't count, we lose all matches to them ::)
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Ah, it was very nice serving team air. This was really a great experience for me!
Hey, i think i lost only one match this war :D and it was versus team time, so it doesn't count, we lose all matches to them ::)
woohoo if thats the case thin i lost 1 match vs ( :entropy )
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Yeah, fight on Pervepic. I'm pretty happy with how we represented ourselves during this war. Who cares about what xdude says anyway. He is probably just mad that we kept beating his team. Time has definitely been our undoing here. I think after we won the first match against them, they have won 6 in a row. Damn you :time. Hopefully we can stay in a little longer but this next match will be tough. Either way we have fought hard the whole time.
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Congratulations everyone! Just want to say that regardless of how this goes, I think we can safely say that we turned some heads with our performance. That being said,
Go show them what :air is made of Pervepic!
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So when does our match take place?
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Sry I already played :( . Next time I'll let you know, when it's my time to play.
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Sry I already played :( . Next time I'll let you know, when it's my time to play.
No need to be sorry. You won. :D Congratulations!
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Good job on that total surprise deck Pervepic!
Salvage isn't that great but the flying weapon card will be nice.
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YES! Pervepic - a truly imba man! :D Great job! Respect!
GO :air !
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This was a great win to get. It is nice to continue on. We will likely be playing vs. :entropy pretty every match from now on so it will continue to be tough. I wouldn't mind seeing :light semi-fail their way out of this round and finish behind us.
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it will be so awesome to see :light behind us. thin we can just stand there and smile. as xdude feels this small
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:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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And with the end of Round 8, six teams are eliminated! :darkness :death :earth :gravity :light :water
I was really hoping Darkness would win, as it would have meant everyone would have a better chance against Entropy.
Also, I totally missed anything xdude has said about Team Air, but I guess I'm glad I missed it.
Best of luck in Round 9!
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We'll that leaves us in the upper half of the teams at least, so I suppose that's not too bad. Good call on the deck choice by the way pervepic. Way to keep us alive.
I might be available to help with planning the deck for next round, but I'm not sure. There isn't really much to decide, besides which of the two decks to play. Either way, good luck pervepic!
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Thanks a lot. Now it's a matter of luck anyway, there is no big difference between 2nd and 11th place.
And btw, if you can, please don't test my deck :) . There are pictures and screenshots in war archives where we and some other teams too have tested decks. This is probably the reason why some of the teams were so tremendously "lucky" against us (yes, you too :time >:D ). Sad that someone from our team didn't have time and interest to hang and lurk in spec mode :) . Probably something of this is my fault, cause I submitted my score habitually...
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Mind pointing out where specifically? I glanced around and only found that once.
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I saw that death, gravity, and darkness all at least had some post about watching in spectate. While not explicitly illegal I personally think it defeats the purpose of what this event is about. I think it should be about deck building, strategizing and playing, not hanging out in spectate all day. I will certainly keep in mind the masters and players that participated in such strategies when masters voting happens. Also it hasn't worked out so well for some of these teams since they are out now. Good luck Pervepic. Entropy certainly isn't invincible but some luck is definitely needed.
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Thanks Truddy. But there is nothing we can do that spec mode is open for everybody. The game itself is such; can't blame players for that too much. I probably should develop my alt account if I decide to participate in this or in similar event in next time. And I also must be more careful not to submit score as I accidentally did at the beginning of the war.
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Yup, I was thinking the same thing: make/develop an alternate account for the future.
Anyhow, GOOD LUCK, PERVEPIC!
(http://experiencelifemag.com/blogs/survival-of-the-fittest/files/2008/03/four-leaf-clover.gif)
Yes, I did just post a picture of a four-leaf clover. I very much like St. Patrick's Day, too (though I'm not Irish and don't drink).
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That's beautiful :) . And Happy St. Patric's Day to you too Chum, although I don't know much about that day.
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So we were being watched indeed! :o I feel so violated! heheh, ah what can you do..
Anyways, good luck, Pervepic! Since i am not playing, i am ok with lending you some of my luck! Just be sure to give it back later, please. Don't wanna go around playing without it.
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Yeah, I'm not super angry about spectate or anything. I just don't like it. I do like that we beat at least some of the teams that did it though. I just wish they would rely on their actual skills more than something like that.
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That's beautiful :) . And Happy St. Patric's Day to you too Chum, although I don't know much about that day.
St. Patrick's Day is March 17. It's just a lame excuse many 21+ year olds use to get drunk (at least, in the United States). However, I like the day because it makes me feel lucky.
And, in a break from all the Air-related Elements icons I've been using, I'll use the "Heal" icon for this match (I've always thought it looked something like a glowing shamrock). Like Dogg, I'll lend you all my luck, too! I think, even with Entropy having a major advantage over all the teams, going 6-0 would be an incredible feat. It's more probable that they'll win /most/ of their matches ... we'll just have to be the team that they lose to ;D
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So when is our match happening?
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Btw, I should play today at 22. GMT.
Merry Christmas!
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We won ! We won ! Er... Pervepic won ! I saw the last duel, it was... amazing.
We're still here for the 10th Round ^^
Sorry, I didn't participate to this round... but I'm so happy ! Merry Christmas to you all !
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Tnx. Looking at their deck, it is almost worst deck I could imagine and actually was. Therefore, it is still quite unbelievable that I could win this. Part of this was certainly luck (for example, she didn't draw 3d Antimatter in the 3d game) and part of it was the best possible deck I think I made and some risky but complicated decisions I had to make during the game. Every single card was in right place there, in my deck, and came in the right time . Now we have a bit more options for the next game :)
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I was thinking the same after looking at Nyma's deck--they pulled all the stops to try and counter what we had (Steals, Maxwell's, Antimatters).
Great win, Pervepic. Seriously, this is the best Christmas present ever. :D This really made my day.
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congrats Pervepic your rally showing every one what team air is made of
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Wow! Pervepic rules! Respect, man! Damn, i wanna be like you when i grow up (says my account)!
GO :air !
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Very nicely done Pervepic! Way to show everyone that :air means business!
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La fin. Konets. Die Ende. The End.
I lost :( . But we won the seond place in war. Thanks for participating everybody!
Good luck!
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Thank you Pervepic, it was great playing for you this war. You have been an excellent player and strategist and I learned alot playing with you. It has been great playing with everyone and I could not have asked to be on a better team. We outperformed most peoples expectations of us to finish second. I hope to be on team air next time around so we can win it all.
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I was great being with Team :air this was, I got recruited as a almost noob and ended up learning a lot about the game. Pervepic I hope you run for Air Master in the trials or some other Master position. I'll be on either Air or an an allied team in WoE and I hope to be back for next war.
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This War was... awesome. Thanks Pervepic. Thanks all !
I... I don't know what to say, Truddy said pretty much everything :P
I don't have enough vocabulary to tell how fun and exciting were these weeks with you. Thanks again, we'll share something... epic !
Go Team :air !
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What everybody else said. ;) My vocabulary is pretty slim, too. Thanks Pervepic and everyone on this team for making this the funnest time I've had in Elements the Game.
And second ain't too shabby for a team most people thought would place near last.
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I just want to say that I'm incredibly pleased with how we did. We might not have won, but we placed much, much better than most people expected us to.
Good work everyone!
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Ah, I forgot that I have a question: Pervepic, how did you become general of Team Air? I seem to have completely missed this (other than knowing the council voted you to become general). Did someone in particular approach you, or you offered to become general yourself? Either way, I'm glad that you were general, as you did an amazing job.
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Council voted me for that job. They just needed somebody there and I randomly mentioned in chat that I almost went for trials of :air last time, but didn't do it, because there were already 4 people. Then there was a council member(s) in chat who thought that why not offer me as a possible candidate and I agreed. After some time they said that I was picked, that was a surprise :) . I don't think that they had very particular reason to choose me. Just my relatively high activeness might play role there (I played first league too), maybe also my experiences from the last war.
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