R2 Discussion

[Jenkar]

30	Gen. Jenkar	vs	Life4
21	Aether5	vs	Air2
12	Air3	vs	Darkness4
25	Air4	vs	Earth3
26	Air5	vs	Death5
29	Time5	vs	Air6

Our ennemies' ennemies.

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[Jenkar]

Predictions :
Aether sends
-Sancstall vs entropy
-Stonestall vs time
-Graboids vs gravy
-Pestal vs us again seems likely, or RoL hope. Our lighstall might be our best option here, but remember they still have two hidden decks.

[Hyroen]

Revealed Life Decks:

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General (8^) [W vs Fire]:

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5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 61q 61q 61q 622 622 624 624 624 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 7ae 80i 80i 8pu

Lieutenant (5^) [L vs Light]:

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5bs 5bs 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 624 624 624 7ac 7ac 7bu 7bu 7bu 8pu

Strategist (2^) [L vs Aether]:

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 590 590 590 590 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c5 5c7 5c7 5c7 5de 5de 5oi 5oi 5oi 7n2 7n2 8pm

Assassin (2^) [L vs Entropy]:

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5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5bt 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5og 5ol 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5oo 5oo 7n8 7n8 8pr

Salvager (2^) [W vs Gravity]:

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5c6 5c6 5c6 5c9 5c9 5c9 5c9 5c9 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5ul 5ul 5ul 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 7t6 7t6 8pt

Scout (2^) [L vs Time]:

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5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c2 5c4 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5de 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f7 5f7 5f7 5fb 5fb 5fb 5fb 5gi 7dg 7f2 8po

Revealed Aether Decks:

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4vh 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61u 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 77g 77g 77g 77g 77g 7dm 7dm 81q 8pm

Lieutenant (5^) [W vs Earth]:

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5la 5la 5li 5lk 5lk 5lk 5lk 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61u 622 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 8pu

Strategist (2^) [L vs Time]:

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52h 52q 52r 52r 52r 52r 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 713 713 8pk

Assassin (2^) [W vs Entropy]:

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5li 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 808 81q 8pq

Salvager (2^) [W vs Air]:

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5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5uq 5ut 5ut 61o 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7ta 7td 8pt

Scout (2^) [L vs Death]:

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58o 58o 592 592 592 592 592 592 594 594 594 594 594 594 5aa 5aa 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 77b 77b 8pm

Revealed Darkness Decks:

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4st 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 55t 590 590 595 5i7 5on 5uk 5uk 5uk 5up 5up 606 606 606 606 77g 77g 77g 7t8 7tb 7tf 7tf 7tf 8pm

Lieutenant (5^) [L vs Water]:

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5ld 5ld 5ld 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5ll 5up 5up 5ur 5ur 5v1 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 7n2 7n2 7n2 7tb 7tb 8pq

Strategist (2^) [W vs Fire]:

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4st 4st 4st 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5ul 5ul 5uo 5up 5up 5us 5us 606 606 606 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 61q 622 622 7tb 7tc 8pu

Assassin (2^) [W vs Earth]:

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5l8 5li 5li 5li 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5mq 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uo 5uo 5up 5up 5us 5us 5us 5us 5us 5us 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 7tb 7tb 8pq

Salvager (2^) [L vs Entropy]:

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58r 58r 58r 593 593 593 593 593 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5v8 5v8 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 77c 7tb 8pm

Scout (2^) [L vs Air]:

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5rg 5rg 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5t2 5up 5up 5v1 5v1 5v1 5v1 5v1 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 606 7q4 7tb 8ps

Revealed Earth Decks:

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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 593 593 595 595 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5ol 5ol 5ol 5oo 5oo 5oo 77a 77a 77a 77a 77a 77a 7n8 7n8 8pr

Lieutenant (5^) [L vs Air]:

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58o 58o 58o 58o 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 622 779 779 779 77a 77a 8pu

Strategist (2^) [W vs Entropy]:

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58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58s 594 594 594 594 594 594 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5l8 5l8 5l8 5li 5li 5li 5li 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5mq 5mq 5mq 77c 77c 8pq

Assassin (2^) [L vs Fire]:

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58r 58r 595 595 595 595 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5ic 5ic 5ic 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 77a 77a 8pp

Salvager (2^) [L vs Aether]:

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58o 58o 58o 58q 58q 58s 58s 591 591 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5aa 5up 5up 5uv 5uv 5uv 5v1 5v1 7tb 7tb 8pt

Scout (2^) [W vs Water]:

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4sa 4sa 4sa 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58o 58v 590 590 590 590 590 590 595 595 595 5c1 5ia 5og 5v1 61q 77f 77f 8pl

Revealed Death Decks:

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4sk 4sk 4sk 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 542 542 542 542 542 542 5on 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 713 713 713 713 713 713 71a 71a 8pr

Lieutenant (5^) [W vs Light]:

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52l 52l 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 593 593 593 593 593 713 713 713 71a 71a 8pm

Strategist (2^) [W vs Aether]:

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52h 52h 52h 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 5uo 5up 5up 5up 5v1 5v1 7ta 7tb 8pt

Assassin (2^) [W vs Time]:

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52r 52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 542 542 542 542 713 71a 8pk

Salvager (2^) [W vs Gravity]:

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4sk 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52q 52q 52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 713 713 8ps

Scout (2^) [L vs Water]:

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52g 52g 52g 52h 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 542 61q 61q 61q 61q 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 713 713 8pu

Revealed Time Decks:

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General (9^) [W vs Water]:

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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5t2 5t2 5t2 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ru 5ro 5ro 5ro 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 5lm 7q0 7q0 7ri 7ri 7q5 7q5 7q5 7qc 7qc 8pq

Lieutenant (6^) [W vs Aether]:

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vl 4vl 4vl 5ia 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rs 5rs 5ru 5v1 77j 7dm 7dm 7q5 7q5 7qc 8pj

Strategist (3^) [W vs Gravity]:

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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rm 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ro 5ro 5ro 5s4 7q0 7qc 7qk 8ps

Assassin (3^) [L vs Air]:

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5f6 5f6 5f6 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rk 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ro 5ro 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 7ds 7ds 7ds 8po

Salvager (3^) [W vs Life]:

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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rm 5ro 5ru 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 61t 61t 61t 61t 61t 622 622 7q5 7q5 7q5 8pu

Scout (3^) [L vs Death]:

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5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5rg 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5t2 5rk 5rk 5rm 5rm 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ro 5ro 5ro 7q5 7qc 7qc 8ps

Will post remaining vault cards for each element later. Enjoy. ^_^

[Jenkar]

Deck suggestions :
Death : winged titans. This deck has an extremely high win rate vs death in testin'.
Darkness OR aether : sancstall. I have really no idea what to bring vs the other.
Time : UGdialbow
Earth: Dim PUgons?
Life : Either bonewall or entropy domin.

[RootRanger]

Here's what we have so far. I'm going to load these into the vault so I can see what we have left more easily, but we can change them if we want to.
As of this post we have 47 hours remaining.


Life

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5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5od 5od 5od 5og 5og 5on 5on 5on 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5up 5up 5up 5v1 5v1 7mt 7mt 7mv 7mv 7mv 7mv 7tb 7tb 8pt

Alright. Jenkar and I have been working a lot on this matchup, and I've found a very, very strong deck for it. Steals past Dim PUgons, Hits through Firestall, Nightmares Frogtal, and Shocks Pestosis. It even has an advantage against Life's Staffbow. This has tested very well in the simulator, showing clear advantages against the first four decks mentioned and a slight advantage against Staffbow.


Aether

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5f2 5f2 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5f9 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5fa 5od 5od 5od 5od 5od 5od 5om 5om 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 7th 7th 8po

I'll admit that this deck looks pretty stupid against Aether. But let's remember that we're up against one of the gods of war and we've already burned our counters on other, more reliable matchups. Aether has a very solid vault and is naturally effective against Air. We can't beat everything, plus we're running out of cards. But this deck isn't hopeless. It beats the hell out of RoL/Hope and Devtal, going 73% and 81% against each, respectively. We're basically betting that Aether will run one of those two decks; otherwise, we lose. I know that 2:4 odds are pretty crappy, but I don't think we have a much better solution without sacrificing a more reliable win. Plus, we're not that screwed. Honestly, I would actually be surprised if Aether used more than 2 lightnings against us. We've shown that we can take Lightnings pretty well already. As for Dims, I guess we can just cross our fingers and hope.


Darkness

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4vd 4vd 4vl 4vl 4vl 4vn 4vn 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5og 5og 5on 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 7mv 7mv 7mv 7mv 7mv 8pj

It's been tested to win against Ghostmare and Defensive Dragtal. It even has a small advantage against Devtal.


Earth

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5od 5of 5oo 5oo 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5rk 5rk 5rk 5ro 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 5ru 7mv 7mv 8ps

Although I made this out of the vault's leftovers, it can certainly hold its own. It edges out Pulvybow, hitting 62%. Eternity gives it a free win against The Immortal.


Death

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55k 55s 55s 55s 55s 55s 55s 561 561 561 576 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oi 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 7oe 7oe 8pl

This deck was pretty much designed to be used against Death, and the testing we've done agrees. Plus, we haven't shown it yet, so it could be really deadly.
I upped 2 pends because it will help if Death uses EQs.


Time

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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5ia 5oc 5oc 5og 5og 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5on 5on 5pu 5pu 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 5rp 624 7ms 7tb 8pr

This deck is excellent against Time and has not been revealed yet. I feel very confident about this match. I think I would have our Salvager play this one.
I think we need the purify in it. Time hasn't used Momentum Dunes yet, but based on the decks we used last round, I won't be surprised if they do.


If we go with these decks, we need to salvage 6 GotPs and 1 NM. Then they will all be legal though.

[RootRanger]

I've updated my post with a possible deck for all of our matchups.