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Re: Deck Building - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24365.msg311569#msg311569
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2011, 04:26:26 am »
Why do you need the adrenastaves verse earth?  I could use adrenalined fireflies much better vs. devtal than the deck there now, as that deck is very slow to get the light quanta to play a sanctuary.  Devtal shuts down quanta too fast.

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Re: Deck Building - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24365.msg311571#msg311571
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2011, 04:32:06 am »
We are anticipating another Earth Stall, but we have to be prepared against rushes or anything else Earth throws at us as well. Earth is not so good at damage, but they do have excellent field control. They can't control flying staves healing 20 health per turn (Adren can easily shrug off Basilisk Blood) and Hope. :P

I guess you could use adren flies, but you better do extensive testing on the Trainer. Also, the devs isn't the biggest problem; the Vampires and the Dusk Mantle are. Even 3-4 Vampires will deck/beat you when you don't have good healing. But I'm not the one to talk, as I haven't tried that deck yet, so please do try it. ;)
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Re: Deck Building - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24365.msg311594#msg311594
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2011, 06:28:05 am »
Since i'm up against entropy, i was thinking something with sanctuary, any ideas?
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Re: Deck Building - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24365.msg311599#msg311599
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2011, 06:42:10 am »
Here's the deck I'm thinking of:

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I'll do testing tomorrow.

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Re: Deck Building - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24365.msg311653#msg311653
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2011, 10:36:40 am »
I dont have the code right now, but I added deflags.  The win rate soared to much over 50%.  I will post it when I can.
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Re: Deck Building - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24365.msg311654#msg311654
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2011, 10:38:40 am »
Sorry to double post, but I have something for omega.  Morm and I were talking about decks and we agreed that you shouldn't use sancs.  We thought that you would do much better if you used OE/Bonewall with a few wings.
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Re: Deck Building - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24365.msg311689#msg311689
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2011, 02:07:20 pm »
Alright, sounds good to me.
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Re: Deck Building - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24365.msg311738#msg311738
« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2011, 04:02:39 pm »
I agree with a deflag splash for aether. Better to salvage 6 less than to lose 6 more.

I'll leave Darkness to you, I don't know it well enough.

Against Time, either Quinted Spiders or Flying MS for obvious reasons. I would like to know which one, though, because it might be useful for me.

Against Entropy, me and jippy had this Bonewall OE + Wings idea for some reasons. Also, take a good deal of cards in it, and some poison. First, they could go monoentropy easily, and this round they have a good reason to. They can bring a Pandebonium, potentially, or an entropy decker, which is why I'd go for poison and a good number of cards. But, I have a feeling they will try to rush us with dragons / aboms / discord. Mono entropy, easy and effective. So, pack shields (wings to kill an early discord, then bonewall). Kill their creatures with OE. Test it against a number of monoentropy and against pandebonium... if you find a deck that beats them, you're golden.

I don't agree on the Earth matchup. They *WILL* bring earthquakes in about EVERY deck, unless it's the decker. If it's the decker, having lots of cards is golden, but... I'm scared of their rush/control. Graboids splashing RTs are a killer for us, and that deck is no exception. It's slow, and prone to bad draws. I don't think it will be a good idea. If you want to try a decker... go for a wings deck, maybe use the entropy duo. Discords and Antimatters to slow down and absorb the damage from dragons. OEs to kill their creatures and Wings to avoid their other attacks.

Gravity... I don't see alternatives. Grabbow and good luck Amilir.

I like TUs against Light, although I said EQs are a good chance too.

Now, for my match. It depends on your choices, but I expect two decks here: firestall and RT splash. I have two decks that kill them: one with quinted dragons and lots of control, the other with EQs and lots of control. I'll test them this evening, and report.
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Re: Deck Building - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24365.msg311747#msg311747
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2011, 04:28:32 pm »
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Something like this maybe, or should i make it a little bigger?
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Re: Deck Building - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24365.msg311749#msg311749
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2011, 04:33:49 pm »
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Something like this maybe, or should i make it a little bigger?
Maybe -2 poison +2 wings. You'll need fast protection.
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Re: Deck Building - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24365.msg311763#msg311763
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2011, 05:11:27 pm »
Ok, I have encountered a problem. RT splash.

Not only I failed trying to kill it with my above decks, but even a direct counter (quinted spiders) has some troubles. Fire rushes too much.
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Re: Deck Building - Round 2 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24365.msg311846#msg311846
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2011, 08:14:21 pm »
I fear the wrath of Kael when he finds out a different member other than the deckbuilder started the topic. Discussions can continue here or the new thread, but the official decks will be posted in the new thread.

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