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Deck Building - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26199.msg332860#msg332860
« on: May 13, 2011, 04:31:08 pm »
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TheMormegil vs. :earth Gen
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Re: Deck Building - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26199.msg332866#msg332866
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2011, 04:38:47 pm »
We're in a bad situation, guys. The upside is, this event is screwing the others too. Time has to play their whole Vault except 3 cards, for instance.

I'm currently analyzing the other teams' Vaults to see what decks we should save & field.

Earth:
They are fielding five decks. Other matchups are  :water  :underworld  :time  :death.

Their current deck possibilities are, most likely:
- Grabbow
- Graboid GotP
- Darkness Duo
- Air Duo
- Entropy Duo
- Poison Stall

Underworld:
They are fielding 5 decks. They are using 175/212 cards. They are not in a tough spot. They just entered, we don't know much of their Vault, and they know our Vault pretty well. Plus, we're against a General.
Other matchups:  :aether :earth :time :fire

Possible deck choices:
I'd put my money on a rush, they seem to have a good selection of rainbow rushes, plus they can splash in there almost anything. They know that we still have BHs, though, so... I don't know, really.


Time:
They're forced to field their whole Vault: 105/108 cards. That will result in bad decks or suicides. Other matchups: :earth :underworld
To be noted: we know all of Team Time's Vault except 26 cards. Reasoning is: they used 150/196 cards last round, but they lost to Point. So their discard is (forcefully) 25 cards from each deck plus 20 cards from Vault. That means that of the 46 cards remaining, 20 are gone no matter what.

Possible decks:
- Fractal Scarabs
- Gravity duo
The rest I'm not really sure, but we should look out for:
- Entropy duo
- Darkness duo
- Light duo
- Aether duo (more unlikely)

as these could make a comeback.


As for now, I'm putting my thoughts into this possibility:
Earth -> weird novabow (still under heavy construction)
Underworld -> bonewall OE (solid against almost everything)
Time -> earthquakes (all their decks are quite expensive)

The only one I'm pretty confident on is the last one. The other two are difficult matches.

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Re: Deck Building - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26199.msg333083#msg333083
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2011, 10:31:40 pm »
I'm thinking underworld will probably play a death/time deck.  They will fear those black holes and build a deck that isn't a rainbow.  Death pends are the only ones they have that won last round.  They could have others because they didn't have to play their whole vault but this is most likely.  They have a good portion of time cards from decks they played before.  My guess is a time/ death duo containing something close to this: 3 RT's, 3 arsenics, 3 poison, 2 upped flying weapons, 3 flesh recluse (probably upped), 3 GotP, 3 sundials, 10 death pendulums.  Not only do they have these cards available, something like this also makes a ton of sense both against our titan deck and our general vault.  They could also have bonewalls in there but might completely skip on a shield expecting titans again.

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What do we have that beats that?  I don't know quite yet, I'll have to do some figuring and testing.

Edit:  So I just saw the event card.  For my prediction of what underworld uses, I would add hourglasses and bonewalls to make it bigger.


Also someone should use an air/aether stall.  That is a deck that is meant to be big and we didn't use last round.  Bonewall/OE/poison can also be a bigger deck and we have a lot of cards for that.

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Re: Deck Building - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26199.msg333220#msg333220
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2011, 03:09:32 am »
I came to the same conclusion as Morm for my match against underworld.  OE/Bonewall is strong no matter what they bring.  It beats dragon blitz and that time/death deck I made up.  It should also still be strong against anything else they may bring.  Even anything with RT, 3 is not nearly enough to stop this deck.  This is the version I would like with a few a decent amount of poison adding up in case they try something stallish like their otk dragon deck.
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Also, I know it lost before but an aether duo might do well against time.  GotP/ nightmare lost last round so the threat of steals is lowered.  They do have momentum though so definitely would want to pack lobos.   I haven't looked at or thought about earth too much yet.  If you have a nymph Morm then a UG with deflag build might be strong.  Without the nymph it probably can't hold up against an SS stall.

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Re: Deck Building - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26199.msg333406#msg333406
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2011, 11:57:29 am »
I came up with something at school. Very similar to what Truddy said, actually.

I'm going for UGs, with Wings and lots of deflags. I suggest either bonewall OE or aether stall for truddy (and keeping the other one in Vault for later rounds). For QT, take a look at their decks. Aether stall doesn't work, they will bring momentum or fractal scarabs with nova + deflags (and scarabs can control + OTK). I'd go for Quicksands. Power them from Mark, it's one every two rounds since QT can play 6 upped. Then bring some heavy CC and wait for the dragons to deal enough damage. I have some decklists ready, but I need to do something, so I will post them later.

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Re: Deck Building - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26199.msg333422#msg333422
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2011, 12:39:17 pm »
This sounds good.  I like bonewalls a little better than aether stall because underworld still has a decent amount of PC.  I'm going to start working on salvages and vault so we know exactly what we can fit in these decks.

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Re: Deck Building - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26199.msg333442#msg333442
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2011, 01:41:30 pm »
Yes, that's out there so we can know how to salvage and discard everything. I think Bonewall OE is better too, since it also has poison and we're gonna face stalls this time.
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Re: Deck Building - Round 6 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26199.msg333821#msg333821
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2011, 11:48:43 pm »
The one other change I'm thinking is moving an OE from QT's deck to Morms since Qt's deck has shockwaves to play early until an OE comes up and the UG deck needs to make stall a bit until it can make a killing blow.

 

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