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Deck Building - Round 5 https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25761.msg328403#msg328403
« on: May 06, 2011, 06:02:47 pm »
Matchups:

Jippy99  vs.  :life promwarm
QuantumT vs.  :water Lt. nilsieboy
truddy02 vs.  :death xdude
The Mormegil vs.  :underworld ShiningSword
Hisar vs.  :entropy DSSCRA
Noobiecakes vs.  :darkness Mithcairion

Morm vs.  :underworld
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Hisar vs.  :entropy
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Re: Deck Building - Round 5 (PLEASE DISCUSS ASAP) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25761.msg328422#msg328422
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2011, 06:24:24 pm »
Matchups:

Jippy99  vs. :life promwarm
QuantumT vs. :water Lt. nilsieboy
truddy02 vs. :death xdude
The Mormegil vs. :underworld ShiningSword
Hisar vs. :entropy DSSCRA
Noobiecakes vs. :darkness Mithcairion

We also have to choose a point.  Weird event card

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Re: Deck Building - Round 5 (PLEASE DISCUSS ASAP) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25761.msg328426#msg328426
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2011, 06:28:18 pm »
I could take a wings stall against life, that might work.  Sancs against either darkness or entropy and I would say the rainbow against death.  Add the purifies against death.
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Re: Deck Building - Round 5 (PLEASE DISCUSS ASAP) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25761.msg328427#msg328427
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2011, 06:29:27 pm »
K so first think we need to do is figure out is what all we have available, so we know what decks we have to choose from. Basically anything that lost last round is gone, minus keeping some of the air cards in them.

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Re: Deck Building - Round 5 (PLEASE DISCUSS ASAP) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25761.msg328437#msg328437
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2011, 06:46:51 pm »
Okay, discards are up to date in the thread and ADU.  Temporarily everything is discarded except for as many pillars/pends we can keep.  WE are actually set pretty well on pillars and pends though, even before doing any converting.  Basically, we have available to us everything that the ADU shows plus 6-10 cards from each of our losing decks (depending on the size of the deck), 6 cards salvage from the first 3 wins, and 3 cards salvaged from the last win.  Check the ADU and the salvage thread where all the decks are posted to see what is available for deck building. 

Also I think point should probably be jippy or Hisar.  While General and Lt would probably be first choices for point because of upped card advantage, me and QT both have matches against elements in a strong card position that have given us problems before.  Life and entropy, we have done quite well against.  Using point against underworld is also possible but kind of a wild card since we really don't know what we will be up against.

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Re: Deck Building - Round 5 (PLEASE DISCUSS ASAP) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25761.msg328445#msg328445
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2011, 07:00:59 pm »
I'm going to compile a list of what the teams we're against have left.

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Re: Deck Building - Round 5 (Discuss Converts/Discards/Salvages/Penalties first) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25761.msg328513#msg328513
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2011, 08:36:45 pm »
Why did you change the title to discuss converts/ salvages/ and penalties first?  A lot of that is going to depend on what decks we want to take.  We need to get our decks built quickly, then we can discard from what is left.  It is just important to keep in mind that a few cards from any losing deck or salvaged deck can if we want them.  When thinking about decks we should just use the ADU to see what is definitely available and make sure to comment if a deck needs something from salvage or from a losing deck so that we make sure changes are made.

Before really looking into other teams vaults, underworld is a match to look at right away because we have no previous information to go by other than their rules for building decks.  We have about half a titan deck left and 4 black holes.  Seems like a perfect fit for a team that is probably at least 50/50 going to be a rainbow and can't just throw in 6 RT in a deck (though they could take 2 eternities). 

The UG/ grabbow with purifies could be a good pick against water.  Poison is a real possibility since they haven't used it against us and it could work well against other decks as well.  No testing done yet, just a preliminary thought.


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Re: Deck Building - Round 5 (Discuss Converts/Discards/Salvages/Penalties first) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25761.msg328518#msg328518
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2011, 08:41:10 pm »
Why did you change the title to discuss converts/ salvages/ and penalties first?  A lot of that is going to depend on what decks we want to take.  We need to get our decks built quickly, then we can discard from what is left.  It is just important to keep in mind that a few cards from any losing deck or salvaged deck can if we want them.  When thinking about decks we should just use the ADU to see what is definitely available and make sure to comment if a deck needs something from salvage or from a losing deck so that we make sure changes are made.

Before really looking into other teams vaults, underworld is a match to look at right away because we have no previous information to go by other than their rules for building decks.  We have about half a titan deck left and 4 black holes.  Seems like a perfect fit for a team that is probably at least 50/50 going to be a rainbow and can't just throw in 6 RT in a deck (though they could take 2 eternities). 

The UG/ grabbow with purifies could be a good pick against water.  Poison is a real possibility since they haven't used it against us and it could work well against other decks as well.  No testing done yet, just a preliminary thought.
That is my area of expertise.  UW is hard to predict in their first round.  I wouldn't be surprised to have them come at us with a entropy/darkness deck similar to the one I used last war.  They might be thinking that we have many permanents and might beat us if they destroy them.  I like taking the Grabbybow here, it fits the best.
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Re: Deck Building - Round 5 (Discuss Converts/Discards/Salvages/Penalties first) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25761.msg328544#msg328544
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2011, 09:18:29 pm »
Here's an idea for a gravity duo vs.  :underworld if we want to go with that:

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Re: Deck Building - Round 5 (Discuss Converts/Discards/Salvages/Penalties first) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25761.msg328890#msg328890
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2011, 01:39:57 pm »
Here's an idea for a gravity duo vs.  :underworld if we want to go with that:

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I like that.  It counters rainbows very well.  I am definitely going with an aether/air wings stall.  I think I should be our point, that seems to be our most favorable matchup.
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Re: Deck Building - Round 5 (Discuss Converts/Discards/Salvages/Penalties first) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25761.msg328981#msg328981
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2011, 05:20:03 pm »
I don't like that, because we've used it twice against them now.  If you lose, we lose our only two lobos.

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Re: Deck Building - Round 5 (Discuss Converts/Discards/Salvages/Penalties first) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=25761.msg329647#msg329647
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2011, 08:18:55 pm »
I put the gravity duo that Hisar posted in the ADU for Morm against underworld.  I think it needs a shield though since we aren't using any grav pulls with the titans.  We could take a fog or two or 2-3 wings if we think something like discord is a good possibility.  I have to agree with Hisar on the life matchup as well.  I have a feeling a gravity duo is coming from them.  Here are my initial thought.  If I get some time tonight I will work on testing and building a few decks.  We can always change them later.
 :life - maybe something with gravity shield, otyung and OE ?
:water - grabbow w/ purify
 :death - adrenastaffs
:underworld - gravity duo
:entropy - OE/ bonewall
:darkness - something with shockwaves and lightnings?


I would say I am most leaning toward the life matchup for point.  Certainly not water or darkness.

 

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