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Re: Deck Building (Round one) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24003.msg307677#msg307677
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2011, 08:13:44 pm »
I would say for Jippy upping the water pendula isn't worth it, I'd up wind pendula if anything to split the towers up 5 ways.  I don't know if those ups are necessary though.  I also don't think bonewall/OE needs the upped cards, I doubt its worth the sacrifice.  Sky dragons definitely need to be upped though.

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Re: Deck Building (Round one) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24003.msg307841#msg307841
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2011, 11:01:22 pm »
Time to talk discarding.  First, we need all of our decks up.  Noobie, can you please put each person's final deck up in the first post?  For my deck, us the second one in my post with shockwaves and change the upped water pends to regular pends.
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Re: Deck Building (Round one) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24003.msg307843#msg307843
« Reply #14 on: April 07, 2011, 11:05:29 pm »
Here's the deck I'm currently thinking of:

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5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 61t 61t 621 621 621 621 80g 80g 80g 80g 80g 80g.

How's that look to everyone?

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Re: Deck Building (Round one) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24003.msg307845#msg307845
« Reply #15 on: April 07, 2011, 11:09:06 pm »
Here's the deck I'm currently thinking of:

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5oi 5ol 5ol 5ol 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 61t 61t 621 621 621 621 80g 80g 80g 80g 80g 80g.

How's that look to everyone?
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Re: Deck Building (Round one) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24003.msg307846#msg307846
« Reply #16 on: April 07, 2011, 11:13:02 pm »
The problem is I'm already heavy on aether.  Maybe take out a few pendula for some shockwaves?

Edit:  Here's something truddy proposed so I could beat a life/fire stall:
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5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 620 620 621 621 621 621 621 621 7mv 7mv 7mv 7mv 80g 80g
I'm thinking of taking out one dragon and adding in a recluse, any one have any opinions on that?

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Re: Deck Building (Round one) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24003.msg307916#msg307916
« Reply #17 on: April 08, 2011, 12:30:57 am »
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52j 52j 52j 52j 52j 52j 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu
This is what I would like to take.  The low cost of everything is helpful against reverse time and also if they bring earthquakes.  Poison is helpful if they take phase shields.  It probably loses against a deck with tons of steals but still has a chance to win with a good draw.  I think at this point EQ and phase shields are bigger threats, so this is my idea.  I am open to suggestion though if anyone thinks it won't work, or something else is better.

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Re: Deck Building (Round one) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24003.msg307953#msg307953
« Reply #18 on: April 08, 2011, 01:34:14 am »
I am taking this:
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5i4 5i4 5i4 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5ie 5oc 5oc 5oc 5og 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5oo 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 5pu 7gr 7gr 7gr+3 unupped water pends (don't know the code for them)
Still open for suggestions and changes.  Also, I would choose to discard 1 air pendulum for me.  That choice might not really be up to me, but I probably won't be on for the majority of tomorrow so I just wanted to voice my opinion.
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Re: Deck Building (Round one) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24003.msg308022#msg308022
« Reply #19 on: April 08, 2011, 04:50:48 am »
Its probably a good idea for noobiecakes or anyone taking a bonewall deck to have 31-32 cards because it can end up in a deckout situation.  I also agree that the upgrades aren't particularly needed.

Currently we have 3 arsenics in decks and only 2 in the vault.  I don't think it is necessary in the bonewall deck.  If we decide it is then I have to take another deck because I think 2 are definitely  necessary in the wings/poison deck. 

In Morm's match against light I think a deck that beats stalls is better than one that beats rushes.  Air is generally considered a rush busting element so even though light rush is something that is tough against air, the idea is there that stalls are better against air.

Against water we could try a discord/antimatter deck.  In my previous post I said titans but I realize that isn't very smart because they can freeze them in so many different ways.  Discord/antimatter should be solid unless they do a light/water stall with sanctuary which is actually quite possible.  I don't know what else unless we take discord/antimatter against life and a quinted dragons deck against water.

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Re: Deck Building (Round one) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24003.msg308132#msg308132
« Reply #20 on: April 08, 2011, 12:30:11 pm »
Its probably a good idea for noobiecakes or anyone taking a bonewall deck to have 31-32 cards because it can end up in a deckout situation.  I also agree that the upgrades aren't particularly needed.

Currently we have 3 arsenics in decks and only 2 in the vault.  I don't think it is necessary in the bonewall deck.  If we decide it is then I have to take another deck because I think 2 are definitely  necessary in the wings/poison deck. 

In Morm's match against light I think a deck that beats stalls is better than one that beats rushes.  Air is generally considered a rush busting element so even though light rush is something that is tough against air, the idea is there that stalls are better against air.

Against water we could try a discord/antimatter deck.  In my previous post I said titans but I realize that isn't very smart because they can freeze them in so many different ways.  Discord/antimatter should be solid unless they do a light/water stall with sanctuary which is actually quite possible.  I don't know what else unless we take discord/antimatter against life and a quinted dragons deck against water.
I agree with the above. Noobiecakes, my chosen deck is the one I tested, I feel confident it can work. It's about 50-50 really. They won't see it coming, I hope. So I'll use that and if anyone has suggestions on improving it, please do share them. Even quanta balancing things or anything. :)

About the arsenics, I think one more OE is worth more than an arsenic in the bonewall deck.

I suggest not taking entropy against life, because they can rush effectively with low cost cards, and have rustlers.
I still have no ideas for water, though...

EDIT: what about taking Fireflys against Life? And quinted spiders for water...
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Re: Deck Building (Round one) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24003.msg308300#msg308300
« Reply #21 on: April 08, 2011, 06:07:38 pm »
Against a Firestall, I don't think it'll matter because they'll try to OTK me anyways before they reach the end of their deck. And most Firestalls have around 35-40 cards anyways, if Thry take Sanc. That Arsenic is to slowly increase my damage output if played early to increase my win rate against a Fire/Sanc stall.

We're not allowed to "take turns" using the Arsenics?

EDIT: Against Firestall, I have an idea! I think I am removing 1 Arsenic and 1 FW for 2 SoD or 1 SoD and 1 SoG. That way 30 card Firestalls might not be able to OTK me and deckout.
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Re: Deck Building (Round one) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24003.msg308303#msg308303
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2011, 06:10:42 pm »
We're not allowed to "take turns" using the Arsenics?
Well, I think the point in being a team is not being focused on one's own chances of victory, but rather to use all team's resources to max effect so that everybody has a good chance...
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Re: Deck Building (Round one) https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=24003.msg308309#msg308309
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2011, 06:25:22 pm »
OP edited to solve both issues.
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