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Re: decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7279.msg88205#msg88205
« Reply #60 on: June 11, 2010, 03:08:51 am »
So, judging from the Round 1 Battle results, :entropy has lost every single game so far O.o

I'll be damned if I'm going to be the first person to lose to them, lol.

Darn, you didn't take any quintessences (the most useful card for us in :aether other than fractal, which you also didn't take).

can we salvage any quintessences?

If so, then I'm thinking of going for a straight-up FFQ-hope deck. :entropy has no counter for massive amounts of creatures. 2 owl's eyes (all I have) will help kill antimattered creatures, though I don't think I need it. Hope is immortal to butterfly effect and will stop their damage in its tracks. 2 bonds will make it impossible for them to poison/direct damage me to death. quintessences will protect a rustler and/or ffq (if I have two quintessences and ffq and rustler, I'll protect both, otherwise, I'll leave whichever I have two of unprotected, probably rustler. Without quintessences, this is a VERY risky route to take, since :entropy has chaos seeds, mutations, and fallen druids.

I have the feeling they won't be anticipating air's most famous deck after all the mismatched decks being played ^_^

What do you think? The deck would probably end up around 36 cards :\
It feels like a good counter to a lot of what they might try to pull, though earthquakes would be the death of it (I guess I could put in PAs since I have novas, but, well, too many cards.

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Re: decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7279.msg88215#msg88215
« Reply #61 on: June 11, 2010, 03:21:40 am »
well, considering the fact that its nearly impossible to accurately predict what deck your opponent is going to use, and the fact that they are most likely anticipating counter decks from me, lets just rush them. momentum dragons will do fine, i dont know about the quint thing though. i guess i would go with either momentum or quints, not both, too many elements being put in... go with your gut, i did that and we got a win/loss ratio almost no one expected, in a good way. i would go ahead and do the quint though, its relatively easy to run down those shields with some good old dragons :P.
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Re: decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7279.msg88594#msg88594
« Reply #62 on: June 11, 2010, 04:18:55 pm »
Hmmm, since I'm playing darkness, I think I'll try to do a deck that uses our holy lights. There's only 4 of them, though.

Edit:

Ok, here's the beginning of the deck I'm working on:

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5lc 5lc 5lc 5lc 5lk 5lk 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5of 5of 5of 5of 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok
I'm thinking maybe -2 pillars, +2 shockwaves, but I'm not sure.

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Re: decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7279.msg89084#msg89084
« Reply #63 on: June 12, 2010, 02:32:34 am »
Unit: If I'm going to go with quinted azure dragons, then I might as well go with phase dragons - 1 less attack and 1 more quanta cost.

I could go with 5/6 quintessences and 5/6 azure dragons and the rest pillars. Actually, how about we salvage some lightnings? A deck with 5 dragons, 5 quintessences, and ~4 lightnings could be amazing against him. The lightnings will take down one dragon each, and all of his control cards will be useless :D

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Re: decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7279.msg89105#msg89105
« Reply #64 on: June 12, 2010, 03:12:55 am »
hm.... im going to appoint someone GENERAL. since i will be out of touch all weakend, i need someone to look after the army, that means assinging decks, looting cards, etc. right now im torn between finkel and hyroen, so far hyroen has shown some promise. but finkel is being really active with this event, which is what we need.... hmm... finkel, hyroen, decide amongst eachother who is best for the job. i predict i will be absent all of tomarrow, and the day after. monday, however, im not certain...
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Re: decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7279.msg89439#msg89439
« Reply #65 on: June 12, 2010, 03:26:16 pm »
Here's what I've got so far:

firefly fractal hope (wins against AI3 surprisingly often, even beat AI5 a couple times):
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5lk 5lk 5lk 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 5ok 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 622Pros: really fast, can stop all damage. Simple, straightforward.
Cons: vulnerable to maxwell's demons, dunno if I can even build it, depends if we can/are willing to salvage at least 4 fractals from opponents we beat.


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5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5og 5og 5og 5ol 5ol 5on 5on 5on 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61v 61v 61v 61v 61v 61vPros: immortal damage, owl's eyes can take care of creatures, fog shields and help circumvent some damage
Cons: vulnerable to continuous healing on my opponent's part, but I doubt that will happen

 
I need either immortal creatures or a lot of them. However, I'm pretty sure we can't get any fractals, so phase dragons are the best/only way to go unless we have quintessences, though I don't believe we do.

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Re: decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7279.msg90652#msg90652
« Reply #66 on: June 13, 2010, 09:34:02 pm »
finkel, you are general now, im able to be on for now, i dont know how long ill be able to stay on, so ill do as much as i can for now.
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Re: decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7279.msg90783#msg90783
« Reply #67 on: June 13, 2010, 11:57:25 pm »
I have a few ideas for decks to use against :entropy
fractal firefly hope. I doubt he'll have any mass creature control, so I should be able to block (nearly) all of his damage while "slowly" beating him to death with my fireflies. The novas are to counter discord.
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4vj 4vj 4vj 5lk 5lk 5lk 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5ok 5ok 5ok 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622
Unstable gasses+phase dragons. His creature control will fail against immortal creatures, hoefully he won't take (many) butterfly effects and/or I'll be able to stack up all the gasses and play them all in one turn so he can't kill them all. The novas are for the gasses and also to counter discord. I suppose mark of fire could work better here, too, but that's a LOT of wasted fire quanta.
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4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 4vj 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61v 61v 61v 61v

This is definitely the most interesting one. Flying arsenics+unstable gasses for damage. One immolation (we only have 3 in the vault, barely enough for this to work) powers all the unstable gasses AND counters discord. I can use it on a firefly OR a flying arsenic once I have him in killing range. I like this a LOT more than novas, since I only need to draw one.
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52o 52o 52o 52o 52q 52q 52q 5f9 5f9 5f9 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oi 5oi 5ok 5ok 5ok 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om 5om
Any other ideas? I realized I might be able to make a rainbow-esque deck with 3 immos and 3 novas, but we don't have any rainbow-suitable cards in our vault.

I should probably add 2-4 fog shields to whichever I end up using.

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Re: decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=7279.msg92229#msg92229
« Reply #68 on: June 15, 2010, 07:29:26 am »
the last deck is unfortunately unusable. the first one seems wicked deadly against any deck that doesnt use fire, air, or death quanta. not to mention most people wont even expect us to use a fractal/ff deck. i love it
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