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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg488413#msg488413
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2012, 02:33:32 pm »
^ True, but changing your mark to  :fire from  :air will seriously slow down your :air quantum gaining. As far as I've played Elements, mono-decks with a mark of the same element can summon things much faster than mono/duo-decks which use a different mark just for a card or ability. As for  :air/ :fire synergy, there is always some sort of synergy (I've already metnioned Air Nymph & Unstable Gas). Other synergies are the Rain of Fire & Thunderstorm combo which deals overal 4 damage to each enemy creature, instantly killing tough creatures (Cockatrices, Elite Shriekers, Ghosts of the Past etc.). However, the truth is that  :light/ :life/ :air combo is much more common and easy-to-use than a  :fire/ :life/ :air combo, so maybe you're right here and a change to Elite Firefly's ability should be made.
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg488425#msg488425
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2012, 03:13:03 pm »
The new art work should be only for upped. -1 is fine it will make  :air/ :life/ :light decks faster.
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg488428#msg488428
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2012, 03:18:57 pm »
@ARTHANASIOS - As You wrote - combo  :air :fire :life is very difficult and it didn't give any kind of advantage. What is more - UG in this combo often gives more problems than advantages. The biggest problem is that UG kills Your FF ;) So strategy EQ (FF) + UG is... stupid and only theoretical :)

It would be fine to find optimal solution of this problem. Maybe generating :life will be OP, I don't know it. But I know that generating :fire is very bad idea and here is the biggest problem with FQ.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2012, 03:20:37 pm by Atico »

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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg488430#msg488430
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2012, 03:21:42 pm »
@ARTHANASIOS - As You wrote - combo  :air :fire :life is very difficult and it didn't give any kind of advantage. What is more - UG in this combo often gives more problems than advantages. The biggest problem is that UG kills Your FF ;) So strategy EQ (FF) + UG is... stupid and only theoretical :)

It would be fine to find optimal solution of this problem. Maybe generating :life will be OP, I don't know it. But I know that generating :fire is very bad idea.

FFQ+FF+UG is not a stupid strategy at all

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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg488431#msg488431
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2012, 03:24:59 pm »
The new art is OP; I hope it doesn't get nerfed.
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg488433#msg488433
« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2012, 03:33:03 pm »
@ARTHANASIOS - As You wrote - combo  :air :fire :life is very difficult and it didn't give any kind of advantage. What is more - UG in this combo often gives more problems than advantages. The biggest problem is that UG kills Your FF ;) So strategy EQ (FF) + UG is... stupid and only theoretical :)

It would be fine to find optimal solution of this problem. Maybe generating :life will be OP, I don't know it. But I know that generating :fire is very bad idea.

FFQ+FF+UG is not a stupid strategy at all
Way too slow. I'd rather go for a UG+FF if you were doing that.
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg488434#msg488434
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2012, 03:37:10 pm »
@ARTHANASIOS - As You wrote - combo  :air :fire :life is very difficult and it didn't give any kind of advantage. What is more - UG in this combo often gives more problems than advantages. The biggest problem is that UG kills Your FF ;) So strategy EQ (FF) + UG is... stupid and only theoretical :)

It would be fine to find optimal solution of this problem. Maybe generating :life will be OP, I don't know it. But I know that generating :fire is very bad idea.

FFQ+FF+UG is not a stupid strategy at all

OK, but this strategy will be better with generating :life and putting :fire as mark... Using fire quantum only for 2-3 explodes is waisting quantum... For me if You want to play this it is better using simple FF (not FQ).

We need new card with Air+Fire duo or we should change FF ability into :light, :life or other

Edit: Jenkar was faster :D

Edit2: But we must still remember - UG kills FF.
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg488437#msg488437
« Reply #43 on: April 27, 2012, 03:41:14 pm »
The ugs are burst damage, you can use them just when they'll win you the game x)
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg488443#msg488443
« Reply #44 on: April 27, 2012, 03:53:22 pm »
The ugs are burst damage, you can use them just when they'll win you the game x)

When I have field full of FF then I prefer use SkyBlitz than UG... Better, faster and I'm not bother that someone steal my UG.

I played over 10000 games and I didn't saw trios  :air :fire :life so often in PvP or Arena.

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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg488446#msg488446
« Reply #45 on: April 27, 2012, 04:03:51 pm »
The ugs are burst damage, you can use them just when they'll win you the game x)

When I have field full of FF then I prefer use SkyBlitz than UG... Better, faster and I'm not bother that someone steal my UG.

I played over 10000 games and I didn't saw trios  :air :fire :life so often in PvP or Arena.
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@ARTHANASIOS - As You wrote - combo  :air :fire :life is very difficult and it didn't give any kind of advantage. What is more - UG in this combo often gives more problems than advantages. The biggest problem is that UG kills Your FF ;) So strategy EQ (FF) + UG is... stupid and only theoretical :)

It would be fine to find optimal solution of this problem. Maybe generating :life will be OP, I don't know it. But I know that generating :fire is very bad idea.

FFQ+FF+UG is not a stupid strategy at all
Way too slow. I'd rather go for a UG+FF if you were doing that.

No ffq => duo (fire/air)
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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg488465#msg488465
« Reply #46 on: April 27, 2012, 05:11:04 pm »
But still fire quantum isn't used as much as should be. FF has got stats 2|1 lower, so 10 times attack (only 3-4 turns with 3 FF) and You "lose" 20 attack because of this skill. For duo Air+Fire always fire mark will be the best choose. Instead 6 FF (or 4FQ) in deck You can pack other (better) cards like PC or Shards.

Producing :life by FF will allow use FQ ability, use FeralBond etc. It is more balanced here. Air and Life needs more love, maybe it will be good time to making this duo much better.
:light also is good here

Duo FF + UG instead fire mark is the same unnormal as using WindTowers or Damsefly instead Air mark in AW+Titan unupped deck.

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Re: Firefly Queen | Elite Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2003.msg488527#msg488527
« Reply #47 on: April 27, 2012, 08:09:50 pm »
The ugs are burst damage, you can use them just when they'll win you the game x)

When I have field full of FF then I prefer use SkyBlitz than UG... Better, faster and I'm not bother that someone steal my UG.

I played over 10000 games and I didn't saw trios  :air :fire :life so often in PvP or Arena.

Then you haven't looked very hard. FFQ decks are classic.
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