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Air Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15398.msg196766#msg196766
« on: November 08, 2010, 08:53:30 pm »
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Wind Pillars Are for Quanta
Wyrms Are for Damage
FireFlies Are for Damage
Shockwave is for CC

As you can see,I'm Making 12 mono-decks:One for every element. I'd rather make them all in one post,but since we can't...

These Decks are Like this: Damage Dealers,CC and Pillars.This is exactly what i wanted

These Decks are supposed to be Easy To make,NOT Rushes though

Comment Please? It's effective against AI 3s.
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Re: Air Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15398.msg196773#msg196773
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2010, 09:06:42 pm »
I would take out the fireflies for something like pegasi, for some extra damage. Just as a thought, though, as you might get short on air quantum later on.

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Re: Air Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15398.msg196814#msg196814
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2010, 09:43:13 pm »
i dont see the purpose of the fireflies other than for SMALL damage.
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Re: Air Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15398.msg196907#msg196907
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2010, 11:16:29 pm »
i dont see the purpose of the fireflies other than for SMALL damage.
Yes,It's for small damage. And if someone black holes or discords you,they might help a bit

I would take out the fireflies for something like pegasi, for some extra damage. Just as a thought, though, as you might get short on air quantum later on.
Pegasus is Light. It won't be a Mono-Deck with Pegasus

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Re: Air Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15398.msg196916#msg196916
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2010, 11:20:28 pm »
i dont see the purpose of the fireflies other than for SMALL damage.
Yes,It's for small damage. And if someone black holes or discords you,they might help a bit

I would take out the fireflies for something like pegasi, for some extra damage. Just as a thought, though, as you might get short on air quantum later on.
Pegasus is Light. It won't be a Mono-Deck with Pegasus
Rofling at my own fail.. sorry. Doesn't changes the fact fireflies have no use, though.. sky dragon?

Re: Air Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15398.msg196941#msg196941
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2010, 11:48:14 pm »
i dont see the purpose of the fireflies other than for SMALL damage.
Yes,It's for small damage. And if someone black holes or discords you,they might help a bit

I would take out the fireflies for something like pegasi, for some extra damage. Just as a thought, though, as you might get short on air quantum later on.
Pegasus is Light. It won't be a Mono-Deck with Pegasus
Rofling at my own fail.. sorry. Doesn't changes the fact fireflies have no use, though.. sky dragon?
Changed. And it won't follow my rule with sky dragon...

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Re: Air Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15398.msg196949#msg196949
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2010, 11:55:08 pm »
It should have 1-2 shortbows in it.

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Re: Air Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15398.msg200417#msg200417
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2010, 06:40:23 pm »
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5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oe 5oe 5oe 5oe 5oe 5oe 5of 5of 5of 5of 5of 5ofWind Pillars Are for Quanta
Wyrms Are for Damage
FireFlies Are for Damage
Shockwave is for CC

As you can see,I'm Making 12 mono-decks:One for every element. I'd rather make them all in one post,but since we can't...

These Decks are Like this: Damage Dealers,CC and Pillars.This is exactly what i wanted

These Decks are supposed to be Easy To make,NOT Rushes though

Comment Please? It's effective against AI 3s.
"Shockwave is for CC"

You have no shockwaves in your deck.  ::)

Re: Air Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15398.msg200455#msg200455
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2010, 07:31:23 pm »
I can see you are trying to make a mono deck for each element, but can I ask why?
With the current cards mono decks have generally been optimised.

You want to make a balanced deck (CC, Creatures, Pillars), but really, that isn't that balanced. Those are only three things necessary for a balanced deck.
If you really want to be ready, you want (CC, PC, Creatures, Alternate Methods of Damage, Shield, Weapon ect)

And while the deck may be 'easy to build', do you mean it is easy to click on a few cards many times? Because personally, I would rather take a little longer in the bazaar and get a more effective deck. You can't be meaning cheap, because 6 Dragons are not.

Here is what I would consider a balanced Air deck. (Note that the word mono was not included)
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CC :Shockwaves
PC: Deflags
Creatures: Wyrms, Dragons
Alternate Damage: Unstable Gases
Shield: Fog Shield
Weapon: Owls Eye
Deck out prevention: 32 Cards (Only works against generic 30 card decks)
Quanta Sinks: Owls Eye, Wyrms

The pillar balance I just made up on the spot. Obviously it would/will work much better with tweaking. However, this again isn't the most effective deck, but the most balanced. (Thunderstorms could be added as Mass CC but, They aren't always super useful)

Re: Air Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15398.msg203823#msg203823
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2010, 03:40:13 pm »
that deck might be a bit too gassy...

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Re: Air Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15398.msg248771#msg248771
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2011, 03:09:11 am »
DD, that deck fails against L5s and FGs. It holds up slightly against L3s with a 50/50 ratio of win/loss.

Re: Air Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15398.msg248786#msg248786
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2011, 03:32:49 am »
DD, that deck fails against L5s and FGs. It holds up slightly against L3s with a 50/50 ratio of win/loss.
The deck was made in 2 minutes. It wasn't designed with the intention of beating any particular opponent, much like the deck in the Original Post.
His deck was designed for the purpous of being 'easy to make'. One could assume that that meant only having to click on 3 different types of cards to make a deck. I assumed he meant balanced, and showed what I considered a balanced deck (again, 2 minutes. 1 or 2 too many Unstable Gases, and having an Owls Eye makes it 'not easy to make'.

I'm pretty sure I specified a couple of times that this was not optimised, or the best mono air deck. I'm quite surprised someone would even bother testing the deck against FGs/HBs, when at a glance you should be able to tell that under no circumstances will you be able to deal with them (Low damage output, not enough stalling, fully unupped).
I'm not sure I trust the numbers 50/50, you need many games to get numbers like that, and I would at least correct the pillars before doing that. (Also, against AI3s, it would be wise to go back to 30 cards, since deckout is unecessary).

Okay, sorry about that little rant, but I find it slightly suspicious when people critique a deck for not working against FGs when it was made in 2 minutes/designed only to be a reference/not designed in any way possible for FGs. The AI3 comment was a little better.

 

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