Vault Planning Thread

[deuce22]

Is anyone else worried about devtal running into sanctuary? I feel like if we have 2 sets of devtal, then the frequency of encountering sanctuary will significantly increase. I guess a few steals can fix that, but even then, if multiple sancs are out, devtal has almost no chance of winning. devtal only had a 60% win rate last war, and that was pre-sanctuary...

[Higurashi]

A legit concern. The beauty about Devtal is actually the impact it has on the metagame, and not its actual power. I've used this to its full extent in two TPvP's, and I've yet to lose a single matchup.

Funny thing is, with more Steals it can actually become more powerful. Stolen Sancs keeps it alive until we get to the real kicker: Fractal Vamps. That's the killshot, and sometimes Devtal even skips Fractalling Devs in favour of it.

So, if anything, we modify our Devtals with more Steals and at least 3 Vamps. Or we just keep them as it is and make sure we use them at the right time.

[UTAlan]

Updated.

This leaves us with 16 cards left to put in. Are we good with 45/90 on pillars/pends? Also, I upped Phase Dragons from 10 to 12 - should we add even more?

[willng3]

The one concern I have with Devtal against Sanctuary is that even with Steals it's going to be hell because Sanctuary stops Devourers from generating any for the user to use.  While this doesn't really hinder the lockdown effect itself, it does slow down the rate at which we can establish this lock and/or spam vamps for the kill.  But then again unless the deck's a Firesancstall then it's likely going to be slow as hell anyways so this point is probably moot.  Anyways, it's only slightly less effective as before.

Yes more Phase Dragons.  We also need enough to supply a couple of Mono Aether decks so we'll likely need 18 at the very least.

[deuce22]

Do we need 12 Phoenix if we only have 6 immos?

[willng3]

Do we need 12 Phoenix if we only have 6 immos?

Yes.  We have a PU Phoenix and an Immo deck, both use 6.

[deuce22]

Do we need 12 Phoenix if we only have 6 immos?

Yes.  We have a PU Phoenix and an Immo deck, both use 6.

Forgot about PU Phoenix.

Also, if we're running 2 devtals, we will need 3 more steals and minor vamps.
For frogtal, we still need to add heals to the vault.

[UTAlan]

Someone else must have removed the heals, because I added what willu said we needed for our decks.

[willng3]

Yeah I noticed a few things were different when I looked at it this morning.  6 Frogs and 5 Heals for Frogtal.  For cases like this, I would appreciate it if all editing of the Vault would be left to the Vault Organizer and no one else -_-

[deuce22]

Yeah I noticed a few things were different when I looked at it this morning.  6 Frogs and 5 Heals for Frogtal.  For cases like this, I would appreciate it if all editing of the Vault would be left to the Vault Organizer and no one else -_-

Does this include Higs?

[Higurashi]

Yep. I'm personally worried about the amount of Silences and low amount of Phase Drags.

[willng3]

Too many Silences or too few?