Vault Planning Thread

[Higurashi]

6 is a bit much to begin with. Catapult Titans would want 4, where one is a surplus to increase draw chance. Twin Titans only needs 3.

By the way, Twin Titans is a combined non-PC rush-stopper and Firestall counter. It's pretty good with that in mind.

[UTAlan]

Converted 3 Titans to pillars. Below is the near-final draft. Any other suggestions before the deadline?

[Odii Odsen]

I think we can surprise our opponents with this deck, if they think, we we'll use Dim Shield, their deflags or steals are just fill-ins then.
Its kind of rush deck, I create it in 5 mins, and test it just 6 times against other random war decks. 6 wins, but I'm still not sure, if its good enough for war.

I dont know, if already exists a better variation of this deck. I just wanted to show you that...

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[Higurashi]

Indeed, that's pretty close to our standard NovaGrabby. It tends to use Forest Spirit, Arsenic (very important), 5-6 Grabbys, one more Deflag and 5 pends instead of pillars to get faster . We also have a version with EQ's and all PU's, which is a pure denial rush. One of few decks that could counter several team vaults on its own.

However, we will henceforth always upgrade Deflag in our NovaGrabbies since it's more expensive now. The entire team will need to save some electrum for certain upgrades before a round, as we might need to upgrade anything.

[Odii Odsen]

Higs, you know I love poison, but arsenic is to slow. FS is also to "slow". If we dont have FS from beginning, its useless.
It gives two opportunities. Either the deck will win in 6-8 rounds or it will lose. Phase recluse is nice dmg for 4 quantas and three other aether cards.
Maybe add fog shield for a bit more defence

I am a bit in a hurry, so I couldn't think much about that. Have to go now...

[Higurashi]

No, that's just plain wrong. Arsenic is what allows NovaGrabby to beat a CC stall like Monoentropy, or even a Firestall that doesn't draw what it needs (save Shriekers and Lightnings for OTK), and it's not slow at all. It's the fastest weapon we can use in a rainbow, and the fastest standalone weapon too.

Forest Spirit adds CC-resistance to complement the weak Shriekers, and has also been crucial in some matchups during War 3. It's more offense, and it's reliable. There's no reason not to have it in a rush.

We used Fog a couple times, but it's pretty useless in NovaGrabbys in War because our NovaGrabby crushes rushes with Lightning anyway, and most rushes pack PC.

Our NovaGrabby is one of those decks that have evolved over a long time. It's customisable, but the best versions have shown themselves through actual matchups in War. It has achieved an optimal design and can't be improved, only changed to fit a certain purpose.

[mrpaper]

looks pretty good to me, but I'm still wondering, I was the one asking for a lobo or 2 and I got 3... if we ever need to shred a card, I doubt we will need 3 lobos, 2 is enough ( for a fog shield maybe, or bring back 1 arsenic?)

[Higurashi]

Yeah, we could trade 'em for something. I was considering Miracles, but we're likely to salvage them. What we never got the chance to salvage was Golden Dragons for Fractal finisher in our Light/Aether stall, so that'd be cooler.

RoL/Hope could actually be very good for Lieutenant and Gen, hm.. guess we'll see what we salvage.

[hainkarga]

um, whats up with the silence ? what are we going to do about the round 1 decks ?

[Higurashi]

This thread is for planning the vault, which is done. Eva will make a Round 1 Main Topic where we discuss decks, strategies and duel times.