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Strategy thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13763.msg173710#msg173710
« on: October 09, 2010, 11:38:54 pm »
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Re: Strategy thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13763.msg177492#msg177492
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2010, 08:26:26 am »
Not sure where to put this.

I made a Windows Excel 2003 spread sheet to help out with calculating the damage done by Ice Bolt, Drain Life, Fire Bolt and/or Fahrenheit.

I'm very sleepy right now, so I'm not sure if this is the correct link:

http://www.4shared.com/dir/NaD10nDC/sharing.html

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Re: Strategy thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13763.msg178654#msg178654
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2010, 10:09:13 pm »

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Re: Strategy thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13763.msg180202#msg180202
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2010, 02:12:33 am »
**WARNING: The following is pure speculation, but something to at least think about as we head into War.**

Strategy/Counter-strategy:

We have been reviewing multiple deck ideas and possible opposing decks.  This is great exercise as we'll need the mental flexibility of putting ourselves in the opponent's shoes to do come up with some great decks during the War as well.  Our initial vault is in some ways the easiest part (since we can put many different variations of cards in it) but also the hardest (these are the cards we have more or less for the duration of the War, so we have to make them count.)  After the vault is set, deck building will be hard but at the same time liberating (we don't have to find the best possible :aether deck, just the best ones we can put together with the cards available--just like every other team.)

Seriously consider what other teams are going to be thinking about strategy against :aether :
>The matches aether lost in War #1 included mono-decks (or mono + enchant artifact)--they will look at the decks that defeated them and use similar strategies
>Dimensional shield is a problem only if you don't have steal/deflag/momentum or quantum denial. Anticipate every team to have these cards and thus duo (or rainbow) with :darkness :fire :gravity :earth .  The more deck ideas we come up with that limit the usefulness of these counter cards, the more dead cards they will have in their hands.
>They will look for us to be heavy on the :aether creatures and shields.  We will probably need to be more creative and give different looks so they have a hard time countering.


>There is no such thing as an :aether rush.   The best we can do is creature spam with other elements via Fractal (e.g., Frogtal).
>Aether has the least helpful nymph of all elements.  It's not even worth including in any of our decks (even if we all had one.)
>Aether has one of the best CC spell cards--we will use it at every possible turn.

What we have to worry about from each element:
 :air Not sure really.  Unstable gas deck maybe?  Wings/shockwave/owl's eye not much help against immortals.  Fog shield can be problematic.
 :darkness We seem to have an unnatural fear of the fractal devourer deck.  We may face it and it may kill us.  Steal, devourer (denial) and dusk mantle are the biggest threats.
 :death Poison/arsenic.   The arsenic gets played early, the poison doesn't care about shields.  Immortals/dragons are too slow to catch up.  Need purify.
 :earth Pulverizer, earthquake, shrieker rush--lots of options.  May have to find a nearly pillarless option for this one.
 :entropy Discord early, dissipation shield late.  We need to either chain shields early and often or go rainbow (but antimatter/mutate/chaos seed will hurt us).  Deflag or steal here.
 :fire Fast and balanced element.  So many threats.  They went all the way and had just as many losses as aether did.  If we don't find an answer, don't worry--nobody else did either.
 :gravity Momentum/gravity shield.  Maybe flying titans.  That shield renders our only heavy hitter useless.
 :life Rushes, thorn carapace (a killer for our immortals.)
 :light Multiple miracles, untouchable weapon/shield.  Dragons with crazy hp.  I don't know if we can outdamage their healing potential with aether alone.
 :time Eternity can be a problem.  Will have card drawing advantage.
 :water Frozen creatures do not attack.  Essence is a good deck-builder.
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Re: Strategy thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13763.msg183729#msg183729
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2010, 07:09:10 pm »
counter to fire deck:

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5oi 5oi 5oi 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5up 5uq 5uq 5ur 5ur 5ur 5ur 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61rsteal their shield if u draw it soon enough, outrush and heal with weapons.  only problem is, we probably wont have the cards until later.

One of my favorite anti-gravity decks:

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5oi 5oi 5oi 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61t 61t 61t 61t 61u 61u 61u 61ujust fly, and PU Lobos and lobo otyughs and anything with momentum
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Re: Strategy thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13763.msg188864#msg188864
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2010, 09:14:32 pm »
Because of the massive amount of backlash by the community for SG wanting to use a "Only Light cards can be upgraded" card, Event Cards are now banned from the event.  I disagree with this, but it is SG's decision he made in chat.  This, of course, may change, but it is still worth mentioning.

Speaking of which, I saw some of your posts in that thread. 

You all say it's unfair but if the event card was in your favor, you'd say otherwise, so technically, you're all being hypocrites.
No, most are saying this is a stupid card because no matter what, 11 out of 12 teams will hate this card.

Stupid Event Card!

Could have at least given it to Team :life.
This goes to everybody: if you think the Event Card was stupid, do NOT shout it, it only makes our team look bad.
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Re: Strategy thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13763.msg188916#msg188916
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2010, 10:15:36 pm »
Because of the massive amount of backlash by the community for SG wanting to use a "Only Light cards can be upgraded" card, Event Cards are now banned from the event.  I disagree with this, but it is SG's decision he made in chat.  This, of course, may change, but it is still worth mentioning.

Speaking of which, I saw some of your posts in that thread. 

You all say it's unfair but if the event card was in your favor, you'd say otherwise, so technically, you're all being hypocrites.
No, most are saying this is a stupid card because no matter what, 11 out of 12 teams will hate this card.

Stupid Event Card!

Could have at least given it to Team :life.
This goes to everybody: if you think the Event Card was stupid, do NOT shout it, it only makes our team look bad.
i agree.  at least act professional and mature.  i sorta laugh at Ryan666 now cuz if they are going to do some card like that, its obvious there is going to be one for each element.
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Re: Strategy thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13763.msg189900#msg189900
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2010, 01:04:35 am »
Okay, I've deleted my post.  Will think about the Team more when posting, especially in the event area for the team I'm on.  Bad idea by me.

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Re: Strategy thread https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=13763.msg198383#msg198383
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2010, 11:47:52 pm »
My computer is fixed now!  Stupid porn viruses!

Not sure where to put this.

I made a Windows Excel 2003 spread sheet to help out with calculating the damage done by Ice Bolt, Drain Life, Fire Bolt and/or Fahrenheit.

http://www.4shared.com/dir/NaD10nDC/sharing.html
So glade I uploaded this so I don't have to remake it!

 

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