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Re: Round 9 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27030.msg344557#msg344557
« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2011, 08:41:10 pm »
We'll need to be careful with our Bonebolts though.  Fire still has access to FSS, so that tactic might need a bit more planning.
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Re: Round 9 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27030.msg344559#msg344559
« Reply #13 on: June 01, 2011, 08:42:31 pm »
In all honesty, we should've BoneBolted them a lot more in the past. They have one deck left that can beat it, but it's not a guaranteed win, especially if we add offense.
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Re: Round 9 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27030.msg344560#msg344560
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2011, 08:42:54 pm »
use 2 bonebolts against fire? if they use FSS, go 1-1?

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Re: Round 9 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27030.msg344561#msg344561
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2011, 08:43:33 pm »
In all honesty, we should've BoneBolted them a lot more in the past. They have one deck left that can beat it, but it's not a guaranteed win, especially if we add offense.
Yep.  I was just thinking the same thing myself.

deuce's tactic will probably work.  Entropy did the exact same with Pandebonium in...Round 7 (I believe) against Fire last war and they ended up going 1-1 because of it.  As long as we're sure of our other matchups, I see no reason why we can't do this.
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Re: Round 9 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27030.msg344563#msg344563
« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2011, 08:43:52 pm »
Quite possible. Alright, ImmoPhoenix can pose a problem too, since those birds just don't die, but still good chances.
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Re: Round 9 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27030.msg344570#msg344570
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2011, 08:47:27 pm »
Time to BoneBolt Fiya then (and make sure not to forget Deflags if we ever NovaGrabby them again).
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Re: Round 9 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27030.msg344571#msg344571
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Re: Round 9 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27030.msg344576#msg344576
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2011, 08:53:33 pm »
Anyone else think it would be fun to throw antimatters at someone?

Maybe darkness?
In my initial testing, assuming torb has PUs and Dims at his disposal, an antimatter deck has very little chance because of OTK.

Another idea might be to use a straight up vamptal with lots of steals. In theory, it should be able to outlast their grabbow, dragon PU, or a mono-darkness.

EDIT: vamptal with 4 steals still fails to PU dragons as long as torb has dims.

Although, bonebolt and firestall are interesting options

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Re: Round 9 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27030.msg344598#msg344598
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2011, 09:21:46 pm »
Double bonebolt seems fine against fire. What deck are you referring to as their one counter?

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Re: Round 9 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27030.msg344603#msg344603
« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2011, 09:29:54 pm »
Double bonebolt seems fine against fire. What deck are you referring to as their one counter?
I believe they were referring to a FSS.

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Re: Round 9 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27030.msg344614#msg344614
« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2011, 09:42:31 pm »
Yeah Bonebolt really seems like a sure counter against Darkness; even if they try to OHKO with PU Dragons, they'd have to first hit through Bone Wall and then continue for the next turn to try and kill us off.  Only problem with that strategy of course is that before that next turn comes, we can retaliate with Lightnings AND put up another Bone Wall.  Torb being able to use upped Dragons complicates things slightly, but that just means he can't use Liquid Shadow at all (since the Infection side effect would take all the Dragons down to 5HP, making them disappear next turn via Lightning).  And since he can't use Liquid Shadow, we should be able to easily outrace him with Poison alone.

Mono Darkness is one of the slowest Mono decks in existence, so I know for a fact that Bonebolt would have ample time to set up against it and then kill them off promptly.

Drain Life throws a slight monkey wrench in our plans on both strategies, but I haven't bothered to check and see if they still have those available.

But with Adrenavamps, Devtal, and their Sancstall out of the way, this sounds like a surefire win to me; only testing will prove if I'm right or not.
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Re: Round 9 - Main Topic https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27030.msg344637#msg344637
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2011, 10:07:04 pm »
Darkness still may have at least 1 Purify remaining (there were two in their Round 7 Novagrabby and up to two that were salvageable in Round 7, and they only lost 1 last round). We should probably include an alternate damage source just in case they play their Novagrabby.
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