Round 9 Deck

[mrpaper]

I suppose He wants us to use the deflags on the discord sthey will throw at us... THat is some cocky move and it could prove ot be the stupidiest thing we've done, but somehow it puts an evil smile in my face so I say we go for this!!

[Boingo]

So here is the problem that will stop us more than anything else: Discord.  Thus, I propose going for the Poison deck we used two rounds ago (the one I won with).  Poison will last, so they can't go stall, and they will probably pack an anti-fractal deck (Pandemonium + Antimatter).  I don't see anything else we can use.

The deck has to be played smartly though, so play all of your creatures at once to secure the win, to ignore the effects of the Antimatter.

Something like this?

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I like the moxie in EvaRia's deck, but in trainer I could never get the Eternity up and flown in time to be relevant, much less PU'd.  It even lost a few times, which is not good.  Trio decks are tough.  And relying on Discord is problematic.  We tried a rainbow type in an earlier round and got destroyed--Discord was there, but so was BH.

[Dragoon1140]

Thank you Boingo, that is the deck I was thinking of. 

Entropy has no hard counter to the deck, except maybe Discord screwing PU over.  I say we bring that deck and hope for the best.

EDIT:  If we want to pull a completely unethical move, we could edit the deck after the round is over to incur a 6 card penalty.  That is, if we want the cursing of every team with that.   

[icecoldbro]

umm no drag
also entropy knows we have poison and still have purify in their vault(2) also known from the fact of vagman's deck
Fractal mummies again are our best bet, including posion and flying arsenic.

[Boingo]

umm no drag
also entropy knows we have poison and still have purify in their vault(2) also known from the fact of vagman's deck
Fractal mummies again are our best bet, including posion and flying arsenic.

Please post your deck idea so I can analyze further.  I'm afraid they will counter fractal quite easily (discord) especially now that fractal costs 1 more. 

But if they go with purify (2 of them) we need to make the deck bigger for possible deckout win.  Bonewalls fit in quite nicely since they make CC a double-edged sword.  Antimatter is neutralized with flying arsenics since it heals for 2 but adds 1 poison/turn and avoids shields (right?)

Possibility:

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If someone's around, we need to test these decks against vagman's deck from last round.  Of course, they'll have plenty more salvage, but judging from the entropy part of the deck, they don't have tons of entropy cards left. 

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[Dragoon1140]

They could also go for that Adren/Elf deck they used a round or so back, by the way.  Also, don't test decks, at least with your main accounts.  As we are learning, other teams are spectating matches between War members, which is, undoubtedly, how some perfect counters were made.

Anyway, it's freaking Entropy, they are going to counter whatever we play, no doubt.  We should just play the stronger of our two primary decks (Fractal Mummies or Flying Arsenics) and hope for the best.  Adding more cards for a deckout may seem like a good thought, but that is also what ruined icb's deck two rounds ago, where he lost by not drawing the cards he needed.

Let's just pick one and stick with it.  I'm fine with 31 cards, but any higher than that and we are reducing our chances of winning.  In either deck we use, they will likely bring Purify, worst-case-scenario, so let's just poison them some more.  Flying Arsenics are actually a counter to Antimatter and, mostly, Pandemonium, which are the two cards we should worry about most.

[EvaRia]

The deck I posted has a lot of things you can do with it, none of the cards are entirely key and there's no clear win condition.

There are several ways you can use it. My assumption is that they will use discord. Discord can in fact help us by paying for deflags and mummies. With the 2 deflags in the deck, we can carefully time when to stop the quanta scramble, and use it to our advantage. The eternity is there to both stall, counter antimatter, and to RT mummies to generate pharaohs. Discord can again help us by paying for devour if need be. PUs can also be used flexibly, PUing your opponent's larger creatures can help secure a win if need be. The single animate is a bit of a filler, anything could replace it TBH. After some testing, it does seem like something else would be better off in that position.

The idea behind it is that it's a flexible deck and they WILL not expect it. This is Entropy we are talking about, with their gigantic vault, large amount of salvage material, and 3 byes to increase the flexibility of the decks, we can't afford to use something normal and expect them to not come up with a counter to anything they think we have. It isn't too difficult for them to counter poison, fractal, and others in one deck and still afford to make their other decks.

There is great advantage to a surprise deck, especially one that has no single condition to winning. it makes it much more difficult to counter.

If you don't like it, that's fine, but I think we should go with something beyond the norm.

Also, the deck is a bit difficult to use if you don't know what you are doing.

[mrpaper]

Totally agree with you Evaria.
What we do know :
- they know pretty much all our vault left so they know we will go aether death with a probable poison (so they will include a purify or 2) /and or fractal so they will put discords (they already in almost every deck anyway).
-They don't plan lightly so we can't really hope on mystake decks or that they don't play a good counter to ours
-  They have lots of antimatter left so we must beware how we play our creatures (eternity is a perfect counter to that)
- They have lots of nova so they might have a fast spawn rainbow... Well to that I don't think we have many answer except maybe eternity if they rely on novas but don't have (have few) quantum pillars.
The other decks except the Evaria one are only  crossing fingers decks... i'm sorry but I don't believe in em against entropy (no offense to anyone).

[Dragoon1140]

You know what?  I change my mind.  Let's go for Evaria's deck. 

If we are going to lose this War, we'll lose taking a huge risk.  Plus, if icb wins, we can laugh at Entropy for being the predictable ones this time around.

Plus, and I'm not trying to be a downer here, we probably won't win this War, Entropy just has too much already.  We may as well go out with a bang and use a deck that we know Entropy doesn't know about.

[Boingo]

I was playing your deck all wrong, EvaRia.  Now that I'm seeing the potential for Pharaoh/scarab swarm, I'm liking it a LOT.  I worry about the 2 deflags being dead cards if they don't go with Discord (unlikely, I know, but still...) so I added 1 fire pendulum and took out flying weapon.  Either way, you still need an Eternity to show up rather early in the game to be great.  It seems to work best if you RT a mummy first turn, and PU it right away. That way, next turn, you have 2 scarabs coming out. What does the team think?

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[EvaRia]

I tend to PU the mummies, but it doesn't really matter.

There's a lot of mix for damage potential there, so what you do is situational. If you can win without RTing your mummies just by hand locking, then that should be the way to go. PUs are for mummies, pharaohs, or your opponent's dragons.

Depending on the amount of CC that they have, you wanna RT your mummies the second turn they come out. You skip summoning sickness that way anyways, and mummies do more damage than pharaohs.

Just in case, we also have an anti deck-out function, which is useful against stalls.

Also, boingo, we don't have enough salvages to do your version. I salvaged 3 pendulums, 1 bone pillar, and 2 deflags already for mine, we can't really take the fire pendulum, and we honestly need all the death generators we can get for that deck.

Anyways, I'm glad you like my deck now ^^

Let's catch them off guard and WIN this

[icecoldbro]

well i guess itll have to do lets go with some major risks that may or may not payoff
AGAIN I SAY IT WAS AN HONOR PLAYING WITH ALL OF U