Round 5 - Main Topic

[Higurashi]

Changed one upgrade in Eva's deck from Elite Graboid to Explosion. We have to remember to upgrade PC nowadays. Also gave her one more pillar and one less pend. We don't need more than 5 pends in our NovaGrabbies unless they use EQ's.

I also chose Honour (correct spelling ), since Gravy salvages honestly suck.

Regarding Alan's Devtal.. I've never had good results with a Devtal that has less than 13 quanta sources in PvP (though upped darkness pend version can live with 12). The problem is that our Dims double as a dilemma in that they either have to Deflag those or our Eclipses. They're never going to run their Aether duo against us, and the denial would deal with it if they did. Easily. As such, I think we should replace the Steals with Pends. The only problem is that Steals are so versatile that it could come back to bite us in the butt in any matchup. So, we have a dilemma on what to replace.

Ideally, it should have 14 quanta sources if it wants to compete with a Nova/Discord deck.

[hainkarga]

A few things about our vault;

- i think we need to use the deck code that kevkev posted in my duel topic instead of the one i posted in r4 topic page 3. Otherwise vault is showing weird stuff like -3 spark -2 lava golem etc. I tried to change the deck code but failed for some reason. At the beginning of round4, kevkev changed our vault so that we wouldnt have stuff like 6 sparks 5 cremations etc. So we need to edit deck#5 code on s/d/c/p.

by hainkarga

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5f6 5f6 5fa 5fa 5fa 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61p 61p 61p 61q 61q 61r 61r 61r 61u 7dp 7dp 7dp 8pm

- I think we need more PU's. One way to do it is droping purify from odii's salvage and take another nova and drop the nova from mark's save and pick another PU. We already have one purify in our vault which should be enough. Only a graboid deck can use it anyway.

Odii's salvage
*1 Mummy
*2 Graboid
*1 Lightning
*1 Purify
*2 Nova

My suggestion is even droping the DS from mark's save to get 2nd PU. We have 14 ds but only 8 PU atm. PU is more versatile than DS especially for future creature loot. This way we will have 13 DS and 10 PU.
Mark's save
1 Nova
2 Parallel Universe
3 Graboid
1 Lightning
1 Dimensional Shield

[kev]

Thank you for the PM, hain.  I've edited the immo deck's code in your doc to match the code I put in this thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,33272.0.html).  Please discard from that deck and you should be fine.

<6 hours til deadline.  I should be checking PMs frequently between now and then so if anything else comes up please let me know.

[hainkarga]

I edited the with the small changes i mentioned above, now we have 10 PU, 1 purify, 13 ds. I thought about even more since Utalan saved 3 titans which means another flying titan deck which means we need even more PUs!

And i sent a pm to kevkev, he seems to have fixed the issue. (thank you kevkev)

We still need to discard 6 more cards due to penalty. I think we can get rid of a few phase dragons / spiders / poisons. I would do it but while writing this post, someone else is editing our vault, so i will skip doing it 

Edit: Turns out it was UTAlan, now the vault is fixed. For the record I'm choosing betrayal card for my match unless you advise me otherwise.

[UTAlan]

Vault is updated and ready to go for this round. OP is updated with changes I discussed with Higs and Haink, mostly getting rid of Titans, Catapults, Chargers, and Flying Weapons in favor of keeping as many cards as possible (mostly PU). 6 card penalty accounted for, as well.

We still need to decide whether Paper & Eva are going to go Hono(u)r or Betrayal, then once those choices are pm'd to kevkev, we're good to go.

[hainkarga]

In case paper & eva don't show up to choose, we should choose for them. Napalm openly said they are going to choose honor for all their matches. Higs had said we could trust this and betray them So mrpaper betrays. Dunno about Evaria's match, honor maybe ?

[EvaRia]

I'll betray.
War isn't about winning, it's about making others lose.

[mrpaper]

Oh also we need to pick betray or honor for our fights... It's pretty much a gamble so Idk what to pick for each duel.... If Napalm said she will go for honor, she might bluff, but I would more tend to believe she mostly give up on this war and doesn't care anymore and that this is true so yeah we should go for betray here.

I was the 1st to answer to it

[hainkarga]

mostly getting rid of Titans, Catapults, Chargers, and Flying Weapons in favor of keeping as many cards as possible (mostly PU).

I hope we don't regret this, especially considering the arsenic salvage from mrpaper's win to use with flying weapons. Getting stuck with mono-aether decks would be sore.

[Higurashi]

Not really, since so far the Gravy duos haven't been able to do anything MA's wouldn't have done better (with the exception of UW counter). We don't have enough Arsenics to risk a flying Arse deck either, even with salvage.

Variety is only as good as the decks you can switch to for the surprise value.

[hainkarga]

I also chose Honour (correct spelling ), since Gravy salvages honestly suck.

Novas, graboids, lightnings :\
Ye i'm too greedy i guess.

[Higurashi]

We get most of what we want there, which are Lightnings. I'm not sure what the point of all your hind-sight posts are, since it's 20/20 for everyone.