Round 4 - Main Topic

[deuce22]

Make sure our vault is correct with changes!

[pikachufan2164]

So are we going to go with the changes that deuce posted on the Round 3 S/D/C thread? I'll go ahead and update the deck tracking spreadsheet in the meantime with the new choices.

[Higurashi]

Yeah. I'll update the vault now.

[pikachufan2164]

We still have 4 Momentum in the Vault after applying the new conversions; we can reduce that down to 2 Momentum and still be fine, as that was the projected number of Momentums in the original S/D/C count. We can save another 2 Aether cards from conversion if we do so.

[deuce22]

We still have 4 Momentum in the Vault after applying the new conversions; we can reduce that down to 2 Momentum and still be fine, as that was the projected number of Momentums in the original S/D/C count. We can save another 2 Aether cards from conversion if we do so.

do it!

save 2 spiders?

[pikachufan2164]

We still have 4 Momentum in the Vault after applying the new conversions; we can reduce that down to 2 Momentum and still be fine, as that was the projected number of Momentums in the original S/D/C count. We can save another 2 Aether cards from conversion if we do so.

do it!

save 2 spiders?

Higs chose to save 2 Silences.

[EvaRia]

Cool, so we got everything done

Time to start Round 5.

[EngPhys]

I'm happy with every deck but Phys'. It might work for one game, but Legit is gonna save for burst damage the second time and Deflag Shields like nobody's business. Too much damage and denial, unless we get lucky. Tried it with Pandes, but the risk of RT makes me deck instead of them. If it wasn't for that, it really slaughters EQbow.

Liquid Obsidian failed again. Winrate is at about 50%. Not gonna take that again against ImmoPhoenix when it has EQ, Fog, Stiletto and Lightning. The version Eva used was inferior because it had Nightfalls, Lightnings and far too few pends, but even with 15 pends, two Steals and 4x2(+5 PU) of the combo, I win about half the time. A plain ImmoPhoenix keels over, which I've demonstrated in the past, but not this one.

I then tried different decks with Armagio since we do have 6 of them (Dims+Lobos+Lightnings+Armagios, PU Armagio, even Fractal Armagio), but they're barely more resistant. All our other decks are very strong though, so this is our luck-dependent matchup nr. 1. It's a bit annoying bringing the weakest one against Fire, but on the other hand we have Darkness, Entropy and Earth covered. Oh well, let's kick some ass!

I knew you weren't happy with my deck, but I'm glad that you see the problems I've been facing regarding my choice. Indeed, let us kick some ass.

[deuce22]

I'm happy with every deck but Phys'. It might work for one game, but Legit is gonna save for burst damage the second time and Deflag Shields like nobody's business. Too much damage and denial, unless we get lucky. Tried it with Pandes, but the risk of RT makes me deck instead of them. If it wasn't for that, it really slaughters EQbow.

I was just playing with EQbow against the AI using EP's deck, and even though the AI is completely and utterly retarded, I only won with EQbow about 50% of the time. It's going to be really difficult for Legit to burst damage late. I think EP's deck will do fine against fire assuming they don't use FSS.

[pikachufan2164]

One Blessed Dunes used by ; wonder who the other one's going to?

They'd better run one with 30 cards, or start drawing cards with Sundials >:3

Strategically, it isn't advantageous to risk losing one of their strong decks to us, while we get to strengthen our Miraclesanc stall with the salvage if we win. I don't think I'll be playing Blessed Dunes.

[willng3]

Question:  Why are you assuming they have two when 1 lost last round?  Could they have salvaged 12 cards that would have made that terrifying of a Dune Scorp Sanc Stall?

[pikachufan2164]

Question:  Why are you assuming they have two when 1 lost last round?  Could they have salvaged 12 cards that would have made that terrifying of a Dune Scorp Sanc Stall?

Yes, one lost, but the discard was still 18 cards -- the number of Light cards in their Blessed Dune decks is less than 12 so they could have saved them all. If Time planned their Vault well in the beginning, they would have packed extra Sundials and Dunes because they were on-element choices.

But then again, I don't really expect all too great of a beginning Vault for them, since only three people on Time actually do any of the planning work: Jen-i, SnoWeb, and DevilLoss.