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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg202042#msg202042
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2010, 02:26:46 am »
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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg202063#msg202063
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2010, 03:01:21 am »
for dragoon, i was thinking a version of the deck boingo used against smiley...  but cheaper shields.
Might want to upgrade the Wings so you can protect yourself from discord (the weapon that murdered us last time) faster.  they aren't upgraded in picture because i didnt have upgraded wings or the money to upgrade them.
something like this:
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I like this deck idea, but it won't work against flying titans since the titans are airborne.  Trading out phase spiders for lobos--i don't know--it's clunky but an option to make the shields effective.  I don't think the spiders can take down GPulled titans in time though.  Rewind would be the card you need for the flying titans deck, but we're fresh out of those (actually, we never had them).
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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg202121#msg202121
« Reply #26 on: November 16, 2010, 04:36:31 am »
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I like this deck idea, but it won't work against flying titans since the titans are airborne.  Trading out phase spiders for lobos--i don't know--it's clunky but an option to make the shields effective.  I don't think the spiders can take down GPulled titans in time though.
This isn't pretty, fast, or reliable.  But maybe it will give someone an idea that will work.
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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg202134#msg202134
« Reply #27 on: November 16, 2010, 05:13:19 am »
I won't be on for another 24 hours, so I'm posting this now:

We're under 40 hours left and still need a few more decks.  We're going to have to use every pillar/pendula we have available, so some of our decks will not be pretty

A few ideas Toimu and I threw around tonight:

If we salvage right, Dragoon1140 could go with a flying eternity deck (3 eternity + 7 time pendula + 3 flying weapon) It would certainly counter flying titans. 

Artagas may have to use our anti-death decks from last round, but I'm sure they're coming up with a decent counter by now.

Toimu vs light.  If they go deck out, we're screwed I think. 

EvaRia--I couldn't get your PU/dragon deck to beat the :entropy :darkness AI3 deck. While it's not the same as PvP, that made it hard to like.  Toimu came up with the deck posted and it does a little better.  It packs plenty of PC, but you better hope they leave the CC at home.

Gocubbies:  if I were you (and if we have the cards), I'd go -1 dusk mantle +1 devourer because you need to get them out 2nd or 3rd turn.  Not sure if nightfall helps you or not vs :darkness but haven't had time to test it.  BTW, after last round, they will likely expect the devourer/fractal combo.
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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg202137#msg202137
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2010, 05:16:26 am »
For Dragoon, needs tweaking, I'm going to bed.

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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg202147#msg202147
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2010, 05:36:43 am »
Hmm...
You're right, my deck is lacking some damage....
If I don't draw that dragon early enough I'm not going to be able to do much.

I guess I can try Toimu's deck, but I'm worried about BHs.
Although, I could always keep them on hand....

And it would be a great way to make use of dead cards.

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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg202157#msg202157
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2010, 05:54:54 am »
Hmm...
You're right, my deck is lacking some damage....
If I don't draw that dragon early enough I'm not going to be able to do much.

I guess I can try Toimu's deck, but I'm worried about BHs.
Although, I could always keep them on hand....

And it would be a great way to make use of dead cards.
BH is going to kill whatever deck we put up since we have to have 50% aether.  I faced discord/BH already and it wasn't pretty--I got a dim shield and a lobo out before I was totally shut down.  At this point you're hoping they try the dissipation shield stall deck or maybe a lycan deck that you can take down with lightning/MF.  And if they pack pandemonium, well, we all understand it's a deck problem and not a player problem.  Hopefully you get a better match-up next round.
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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg202186#msg202186
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2010, 07:31:54 am »
I tried Toimu's deck and I was having troubles with it.

I know I'll have a low chance no matter what Zeru chooses to do, but I think I still prefer using my deck.

If ABSOLUTELY necessary, I can always just take a dead-card deck if I really am expecting not to win.
Otherwise, not much I can do.

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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg202242#msg202242
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2010, 12:08:38 pm »
With only 6 poisons available, we can't do both EvaRia's deck(6 poisons) AND icecoldbro's deck (3 poison) as posted.
I think you mean mine deck, not Evaria's.
If I drop 3 poisons out, the deck will not work that's for certain.
Well although I like the deck I made very much, and I had pretty good results while testing it, ICB is our general and if he wants to play poison deck than  I am fine with that.
And also he won his last game with it, and I think he deserves to play it.

I guess I should try that dragon /mummy PU deck since we don not have much options left, although I donĀ“t know if that is good enough to counter some of their strongest decks like scarab fractal.

But I was thinking to add 2 more lightnings instead of bone walls maybe, If we can afford that.
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edited my deck to give thraexis all 6 posion(if we can salvage some next round it be great)
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noted ICB!

also, everyone, i have updated salvaging/discarding and we now have 3 eternities.  someone start tweaking on the deck posted by toimu for dragoon!

also, boingo, i like ur suggestion. 
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After editing and testing Toimu's deck idea for Dragoon, i came up with this:
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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg202246#msg202246
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2010, 12:18:39 pm »
Tnx ICB, I will try to suprise him but it depends on his deck .
We did have problems with creating all those decks, but I am pretty sure all other teams had problems too (besides enthropy, darkness and fire maybe).
So we just need to depend on luck at this point, not much more that we can do with our current vault.

What about arthagas and toimu's deck ?

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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg202258#msg202258
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2010, 12:58:28 pm »
i dont know...  it seems like light has unlimited miracles so i would go with a stall/dragon deck for toimu.

stall with shields while a dragon or 2 are on the field.  right before he plays miracle, play all the dragons you can to win.  its the same strategy RoL/Hope uses against the FG Miracle.

maybe some spiders too?
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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg202269#msg202269
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2010, 01:47:48 pm »
@  EvaRia, I know that Rainbow is very weak, it was just an idea to counter a Discord/PC heavy deck.  I did a poison rainbow vs Entropy, but they won by 1 turn 2-0.  But PU Dragons vs Quantum Denial isn't going to go well.  Entropy might throw :entropy :darkness with Lycans and Steals, or :entropy :fire with Deflag, or some stall, or or or....  hmm... a lot of options for them.


 

anything
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