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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg201745#msg201745
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2010, 05:02:12 pm »
I was thinking of using Fractal Devs against Darkness, but wouldn't it be easier to just use Vamps instead?  There is a very high chance of them using Devourers anyway.
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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg201766#msg201766
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2010, 05:38:06 pm »
I have tried your deck Boingo :
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I liked it but after some testing it has become  so obvious that you need more pillars / pends in this. I am not very good at calculation but it looks like it has QI  of  about 8.8 which is too much.
So I improved it a little bit and this is what I got  :
 
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I had to sacrifice 2 mummies and 1 wall, but it works much better now, and looks like it is much more optimised. I will do some more testing first,  bcs I am still not sure if this is a good counter for time.

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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg201825#msg201825
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2010, 08:14:16 pm »
Don't forget to look at the Salvaging/Discarding thread and the Vault when making your decks.  We lost 3 matches last round using Fractal Decks!  We must discard 18 cards from those decks, and we have been short on Pillars/Pendulums the whole War, so we can not discard many of those.  That means, as of now, we have 7 Fractals in our Vault.  So unless you all jump over to the Discarding thread and make some magic happen with those choices, we can only run 2 Fractal deck.

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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg201827#msg201827
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2010, 08:20:13 pm »
Boingo or mrpaper might want this deck, but if they don't, I'll take it again.  We are down to 17 Dim Shields, so I don't know if we can run it.

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Also, we are going to be force (this round I think) to run decks we might not like, but don't have enough cards to run something else; :air/ :aether and :light/ :aether.


At least from here on out Discarding will be easy, 24 cards this round per lose, and 30 cards all other rounds.

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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg201896#msg201896
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2010, 10:45:47 pm »
for dragoon, i was thinking a version of the deck boingo used against smiley...  but cheaper shields.
Might want to upgrade the Wings so you can protect yourself from discord (the weapon that murdered us last time) faster.  they aren't upgraded in picture because i didnt have upgraded wings or the money to upgrade them.
something like this:
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I failed to account for the gocubbies factor. - Boingo
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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg201904#msg201904
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2010, 10:55:59 pm »
i am a bit clueless atm. i liked my deck from last round but not sure if they would come this time with something to counter it. give me a few more hours to think it over and look at the decks they were using earlier.

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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg201924#msg201924
« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2010, 11:26:35 pm »
With only 6 poisons available, we can't do both EvaRia's deck(6 poisons) AND icecoldbro's deck (3 poison) as posted.
I think you mean mine deck, not Evaria's.
If I drop 3 poisons out, the deck will not work that's for certain.
Well although I like the deck I made very much, and I had pretty good results while testing it, ICB is our general and if he wants to play poison deck than  I am fine with that.
And also he won his last game with it, and I think he deserves to play it.

I guess I should try that dragon /mummy PU deck since we don not have much options left, although I donĀ“t know if that is good enough to counter some of their strongest decks like scarab fractal.

But I was thinking to add 2 more lightnings instead of bone walls maybe, If we can afford that.
troops always go before a general
edited my deck to give thraexis all 6 posion(if we can salvage some next round it be great)
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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg201927#msg201927
« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2010, 11:30:26 pm »
I'm willing to take a hit with a badly designed deck.  I'm a lieutenant and can use three upgraded cards, so I can take a hit Pillar-wise, if needed.

Also, if we have any hard counters to Flying Titans, may I use them?  I'm pretty sure they'll run it against me again.  If not, just give me some random duo with minimal Aether cards/Pillars included in it.
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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg201928#msg201928
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2010, 11:31:06 pm »
WOO
I just found out that I had another charger that works.
I can finally post in the section =D

Anyways, I wasn't really planning on a fractal deck, this was my original idea:

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If at all possible, I would still like to use it.

Right now, Discord is a really really big threat to a large amount of possible deck ideas, and this IMO is the most effective counter to it. Just about anything else and I will most likely end up nochanced.

So if at all possible, I would like to use this deck, otherwise I'm probably gonna be in deep trouble facing Zeru.

If you guys have other ideas to make it possible, I would love to hear them, hopefully we can get it all sorted out.

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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg201930#msg201930
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2010, 11:32:25 pm »
The only problem with using Devourers, Eva, is that you are facing Entropy and its precious Nova, which would be a huge problem for you to see.
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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg201933#msg201933
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2010, 11:39:21 pm »
I'm more worried about discord, tbh.

Nova isn't that big a problem, it will only change my strategy a slight bit. So long as that discord doesn't come out, the Devourers are just there to provide me with  :darkness. The stall is an added benefit.

Discord is the most worrying, and as long as there is a possibility of it coming out, which is very high, I'm gonna need some PC to take care of it. Steals work perfectly, and let me use Dragon PU.

Phase shield will in all likelyhood be too slow, and deflags require me to run a rather unefficient deck.

I will stand by my idea for now, if there is REALLY no way I can possibly use it, I will need some help coming up with other good counters.

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Re: Round 4 Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=15546.msg201991#msg201991
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2010, 12:44:48 am »
Some ideas for decks:

 :aether :water
The deck ICB wants to use.
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 :aether :light
Maybe something like this vs :death or :darkness.
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 :aether :fire
Some kind-of Fire deck.
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thraexis11 vs :time Dragoon (lieutenant)
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The left over Death cards after ICB's and thraexis's decks
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 :aether :earth
The best counter to EQ we have.
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 :aether :air
gocubbies1212 Air deck idea.
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 :aether :darkness
The deck gocubbies wants to use.
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The deck EvaRia wants to use.
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Rainbow
Maybe vs :entropy.
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So we can see peoples ideas are clashing because we are low on cards.

 

anything
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