Round 3 Decks

[Boingo]

Icecoldbro's deck still bothers me.  The bulk of damage is from poison, and we have 5 pillars to power it.  Problem is, if you don't get a  pillar in the opening 1-2 hands, you're pretty much dead in the water.  No poison, no arsenic, physalia are 2/2 creatures with nothing better to do.  It also seems slow to fractal.

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Get physalia out early but sometimes no death quanta for several turns

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You get poison going early but can't fully exploit physalia till end game.

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52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 622 622 710 71a 71a 7gl 7gl 7glAny opinions?  I won't make changes unless there a really good reason at this point--but I wanted to get other teammate's thoughts on this.

[Gocubbies1212]

Icecoldbro's deck still bothers me.  The bulk of damage is from poison, and we have 5 pillars to power it.  Problem is, if you don't get a  pillar in the opening 1-2 hands, you're pretty much dead in the water.  No poison, no arsenic, physalia are 2/2 creatures with nothing better to do.  It also seems slow to fractal.

Original ( mark):
Get physalia out early but sometimes no death quanta for several turns

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You get poison going early but can't fully exploit physalia till end game.

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52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 622 622 710 71a 71a 7gl 7gl 7glAny opinions?  I won't make changes unless there a really good reason at this point--but I wanted to get other teammate's thoughts on this.

sorry boingo, but i still like the first one.  the reason the physalia are upped is for more damage...  and the second deck doesnt give as much water quanta...
the bone pillar ammount is almost (1 pillar short) the same as any speedbow deck.  how often do you not get a pillar in the first 1-2 turns?  hardly ever.

[Gocubbies1212]

Please read above post also.  ^

Actually now I am thinking that dragoons version might suit me better lol.

Lobos and 2 thunders can stop scorpion  poison rush and FFq rush very easily and those are their 2 winning decks from last round.
Altough I like toimu's deck in theory, I had much better results with dragoons version in practice. So back to my original deck please, if possible - so dont update anything - It is good as it is..

still thinking you should take out a lightning and add a dusk mantle.  Besides, i though u said you weren't worried about FFQ's?

Not really, I think 12 pillars or pendulums is the minimum for that deck to work properly, I was even thinking of adding one more pend  instead of  a vampire.
I am not worried about that FQ deck too much,  I can steal shields and bonds and deny quanta for queens- they cost 7 quanta, there should not be much of a  problem for me.
I am more afraid of fast life or poison decks, they could be too fast for me so that is why I want to take extra fractal like toimu suggested.

[thraexis11]

Yes cubby I thougth so untill I actually tested it agains FFQ. that deck has plenty of quanta source and I just can not deny it fast enough. And that poison deck ripped me appart while I was testing toimus deck.
Then I tried dragoon deck and I won 2- 0 vs FFq and 2- 0 vs poison scorpio. Those thunders are great vs scorpions, If I don't pack any I am  a dead meat- he has like 2 scorpions in 2-3 turns and while you fractale your vampires it is too late. Versus FFQ was even easier - lobo and thunders neutralised the queen twice- I couldnt do anything with those toimu's deck - that FFQ deck has 7 quanta to summon FFQ in turn 2 or 3 , and you can not do anything to deny it.

And above everything else, toimu's deck has too less pillars to be fast enough to stop life decks.
If you want you can test it versus me, I will play those nasty life decks- and you will see that there is nothing you can do to stop it.


@Boingo I think they might play that golem / phoenix deck which beat us last round. Have you tried any of those 2  decks against that one ?

[Gocubbies1212]

Yes cubby I thougth so untill I actually tested it agains FFQ. that deck has plenty of quanta source and I just can not deny it fast enough. And that poison deck ripped me appart while I was testing toimus deck.
Then I tried dragoon deck and I won 2- 0 vs FFq and 2- 0 vs poison scorpio. Those thunders are great vs scorpions, If I don't pack any I am  a dead meat- he has like 2 scorpions in 2-3 turns and while you fractale your vampires it is too late. Versus FFQ was even easier - lobo and thunders neutralised the queen twice- I couldnt do anything with those toimu's deck - that FFQ deck has 7 quanta to summon FFQ in turn 2 or 3 , and you can not do anything to deny it.

And above everything else, toimu's deck has too less pillars to be fast enough to stop life decks.
If you want you can test it versus me, I will play those nasty life decks- and you will see that there is nothing you can do to stop it.

ok, but could u try dragoon's deck + dusk shield - lightning?  it would make me feel a ton better...  plus, they will probably not play that deck again because they fear a counter deck.

[mrpaper]

boingo,the 2nd deck for icb ain't legal, we need 15 cards from aether in it so rewrk on it if you pick it.

[icecoldbro]

Icecoldbro's deck still bothers me.  The bulk of damage is from poison, and we have 5 pillars to power it.  Problem is, if you don't get a  pillar in the opening 1-2 hands, you're pretty much dead in the water.  No poison, no arsenic, physalia are 2/2 creatures with nothing better to do.  It also seems slow to fractal.

Original ( mark):
Get physalia out early but sometimes no death quanta for several turns

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 710 71a 71a 7gl 7gl 7glAlternate ( mark)
You get poison going early but can't fully exploit physalia till end game.

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52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 622 622 710 71a 71a 7gl 7gl 7glAny opinions?  I won't make changes unless there a really good reason at this point--but I wanted to get other teammate's thoughts on this.

i like version one more not only is it legal already the quanta(death) isnt that much of an issue while in other it lacks not only water but also a bit of death

[Gocubbies1212]

Icecoldbro's deck still bothers me.  The bulk of damage is from poison, and we have 5 pillars to power it.  Problem is, if you don't get a  pillar in the opening 1-2 hands, you're pretty much dead in the water.  No poison, no arsenic, physalia are 2/2 creatures with nothing better to do.  It also seems slow to fractal.

Original ( mark):
Get physalia out early but sometimes no death quanta for several turns

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52g 52g 52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 710 71a 71a 7gl 7gl 7glAlternate ( mark)
You get poison going early but can't fully exploit physalia till end game.

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52g 52g 52o 52o 52o 52o 52o 5jm 5jm 5jm 5jm 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61t 61t 61t 622 622 710 71a 71a 7gl 7gl 7glAny opinions?  I won't make changes unless there a really good reason at this point--but I wanted to get other teammate's thoughts on this.

i like version one more not only is it legal already the quanta(death) isnt that much of an issue while in other it lacks not only water but also a bit of death

yeah its legal.  although, might need to change thraexis' deck because short of pends.

[17:57] thraexis: Say that Boingo can change , but you better hurry- deadline is soon.

Thraexis said in secret chat that he wants to use the following deck:

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[Toimu13]

My computer went down.  I'm at school right now doing home work... at 7pm...  I should have it fixed in 1-2 days for my duel.  Will let you all know if I can not fight.  Just pick a deck for me I guess.

[Gocubbies1212]

Thraexis and i tested ICB's deck a few minutes ago and he had fractal'd physalias on field by turn 4.

[18:36] thraexis: I fractaled 5 crysaora in turn 4 LOL
[18:36] thraexis: i like it
[18:37] thraexis: i won
[18:37] thraexis: its fast lol
[18:38] gocubbies1212: thanks
[18:38] thraexis: I thougth it has no chance lol


in second test match, he still won but slower because he didnt get early physalia.  both times he had at least 1 aether and death pillar and 1 aether pendulum in opening hand.
the second round he had 4 death pillars in opening hand.

My computer went down.  I'm at school right now doing home work... at 7pm...  I should have it fixed in 1-2 days for my duel.  Will let you all know if I can not fight.  Just pick a deck for me I guess.

probably gonna use the deck posted for u unless we have a shortage...

i think that with thraexis using dragoon's deck version, we are using too many pendulums

[Dragoon1140]

So I'm back.  Oh boy, you folks post a lot. 

Anyway, what I am worried about using a Fractal deck is that Air likely notices that I've used two Fractal decks in a row for the first two rounds.  If they go Unstable Gas + EE's, I'm screwed in more than one way.  A Dusk Mantle isn't needed, imo.  They will either go mass creatures or EE's anyway.  Let's hope for the best.

To the two who are using the Fractal Dev/Vamp deck, just be smarter than the average potato.  Don't Fractal when you don't have to, and rush when you do.  Those upgrades really made some matches go my way when they otherwise wouldn't, so I do hope you have luck on your sides.

[Boingo]

17 hours, 12 minutes to go.

Thanks for making deckbuilding a team effort.  This time around we have all decks built, 1 pendulum to spare and I'm not up way past midnight.  Thanks!

As a team, we did not have enough fractals to do 5 decks well, so we're doing 1 deck well and 4 decks OK.  I'm crossing my fingers but being realistic about losing a few games by a turn or 2 because fractal didn't show up in time.

@Tinkady:  we had a different deck lined up for you, but then noticed you did not have enough rare weapons listed on your auction post, so we had to scramble to make a new deck for you without a lot of time.

@gocubbies:  special thanks to you for icecoldbro's deck idea.  Let's see if it catches them off guard!

@icecoldbro: beat Brion this time around!

@Dragoon1140: welcome back!

@mrpaper: we're both facing death with essentially the same deck, so hopefully we both win!