Round 3 Decks

[Toimu13]

ummmm  short on lightnings too...  last night we were negative...  updated salvaging/discarding so we are even though

NP, this is the deck I started testing:

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dont feel pressured to use that deck due to the team.  its better to win matches than have the cards that are preferable in our decks.  so if it makes a big difference, just stay with the better deck 

and i double checked, we do have 1 spare lightning in our vault if everyone uses the deck posted for them.

btw, i can help u test if u want...  ill be in secret chat

I'm good with my deck (more tweaking needed).  I just happen to start testing a deck without Lightnings when I read you post.  I don't really need to much CC hopefully with EA Dim Shields + EA Lobo.

I just bumped into thraexis11 in PvP1 so try and get him to help test decks.  I need to get back to studying.

[Gocubbies1212]

so you dont plan on using the deck u said that your testing Toimu?

boingo, i think you forgot that we are converting cards into pends and pillars so we dont lose as many.  we can play this deck with 3 pends to spare.
Deck for Artagas:

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5oi 5oi 5oi 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uo 5uq 5uq 5ur 5ur 5ur 5ur 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61rBoingo, i calculated the numbers of cards in the deck to make sure we have enough for 2 of your decks, and we do.  as long as no one changes decks (but we do have 6 shields in the vault including Tinkady's deck [if she uses vamp stilettos], and the above deck for Artagas)Deck for Mrpaper:

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[Toimu13]

so you dont plan on using the deck u said that your testing Toimu?

Yes I do, I just don't have it locked in yet.  I should be finished tweaking it tonight.

A few version of the deck I'm playing with:

Earth shaking Dragons!

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[Gocubbies1212]

so you dont plan on using the deck u said that your testing Toimu?

boingo, i think you forgot that we are converting cards into pends and pillars so we dont lose as many.  we can play this deck with 3 pends to spare.
Deck for Artagas:

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5um 5um 5um 5um 5up 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 5ut 61o 61q 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63aThen, by using that deck for Artagas, we can use this deck for Tinkady:

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5oi 5oi 5oi 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uk 5uo 5uq 5uq 5ur 5ur 5ur 5ur 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61r 61r 61r 61r 61r 61rBoingo, i calculated the numbers of cards in the deck to make sure we have enough for 2 of your decks, and we do.  as long as no one changes decks (but we do have 6 shields in the vault including Tinkady's deck [if she uses vamp stilettos], and the above deck for Artagas)Deck for Mrpaper:

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Also, after looking at Life's decks from round 1 and 2, i saw LOTS of discords.  an early discord could spell defeat for thraexis...  again, please consider this, thraexis:  3 lightnings wont be enough for a firefly queen deck.  you need 2 lightningsjust to kill one queen.  it just isnt enough.  i really think if you replace one lightning with 1 dusk mantle, it can do you a load of good.  Besides, it blocks queens too so you dont need to kill them.  firefly spam?  steal the bonds.
My suggested version of Thraexis11's deck:

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[Toimu13]

Also, after looking at Life's decks from round 1 and 2, i saw LOTS of discords.  an early discord could spell defeat for thraexis...  again, please consider this, thraexis:  3 lightnings wont be enough for a firefly queen deck.  you need 2 lightningsjust to kill one queen.  it just isnt enough.  i really think if you replace one lightning with 1 dusk mantle, it can do you a load of good.  Besides, it blocks queens too so you dont need to kill them.  firefly spam?  steal the bonds.
My suggested version of Thraexis11's deck:

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I understand wanting a balanced deck, but I don't like 9.4% chance in getting a Fractal or Vampire.  Also, (if possible with the vault) you need half pillars and half pendulums.  100% pendulums is only if you try and fractal vampires without fractaling devourers first.  But fractaling is slow with all pendulums.  Look at this deck:

13.3% chance to get a Fractal, Devourer, or Vampire.  IMO much better quantum with 1 less Pillar/Pendulum.

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5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 5ut 5ut 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63aLobo and Lightnings would give it more balance at the cost of speed and reliability.  With no idea what they will run, I'm not sure which is better.  I just like cleaner more reliable decks, but I've lost both of my matches also.

[Gocubbies1212]

Also, after looking at Life's decks from round 1 and 2, i saw LOTS of discords.  an early discord could spell defeat for thraexis...  again, please consider this, thraexis:  3 lightnings wont be enough for a firefly queen deck.  you need 2 lightningsjust to kill one queen.  it just isnt enough.  i really think if you replace one lightning with 1 dusk mantle, it can do you a load of good.  Besides, it blocks queens too so you dont need to kill them.  firefly spam?  steal the bonds.
My suggested version of Thraexis11's deck:

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I understand wanting a balanced deck, but I don't like 9.4% chance in getting a Fractal or Vampire.  Also, (if possible with the vault) you need half pillars and half pendulums.  100% pendulums is only if you try and fractal vampires without fractaling devourers first.  But fractaling is slow with all pendulums.  Look at this deck:

13.3% chance to get a Fractal, Devourer, or Vampire.  IMO much better quantum with 1 less Pillar/Pendulum.

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5um 5um 5um 5um 5uo 5up 5up 5up 5uq 5uq 5ut 5ut 5ut 5ut 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63aLobo and Lightnings would give it more balance at the cost of speed and reliability.  With no idea what they will run, I'm not sure which is better.  I just like cleaner more reliable decks, but I've lost both of my matches also.

thraexis11's deck worked good for dragoon twice so i dont think changing it now will help much...  but i still think duck mantle instead of lightning is the way to go >.>

[Toimu13]

thraexis11's deck worked good for dragoon twice so i dont think changing it now will help much...  but i still think duck mantle instead of lightning is the way to go >.>

I agree a Dusk Mantle helps a lot.  But I'm still for replacing some Pendulums with Pillars.

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[thraexis11]

Tnx for helping me guys
Actually I think Toimu is right, there are times when I can not draw fractal or vampire when I need them so badly. And Lobo, no matter how good it is  I just don't have enough aether quanta to play it and fractal at the same time.
I have been testing dragoons version alot , and I must say it depends alot on luck. I am just not sure how is he pulling those 2-0 wins , I guess he got mojo .
Thunders are good but I think it my be a good idea to sacrifice them to get speed- because that is what I want vs life -to outrush them.

Thank you both for your inputs, so far I like this deck most :

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But I will test few more games just to be sure, I think it is great idea to add those aether pillars, It is very hard to get 9 aether quanta fast enough with pendulums only.

[Gocubbies1212]

thraexis11's deck worked good for dragoon twice so i dont think changing it now will help much...  but i still think duck mantle instead of lightning is the way to go >.>

I agree a Dusk Mantle helps a lot.  But I'm still for replacing some Pendulums with Pillars.

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i like this...  a lot.

[Toimu13]

Ahh... I'm just not sure which version of this deck I should run.  I like fast creature spam, so playing a deck with 6 creatures is odd to me.  But with the EQs and EA + DS, it can work.  I'm thinking about not running spiders just because I've used them twice before, but Immortals and Dragons are slower.  Here is the deck I've been testing now:

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[Toimu13]

Another version:

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[Boingo]

Also, after looking at Life's decks from round 1 and 2, i saw LOTS of discords.  an early discord could spell defeat for thraexis...  again, please consider this, thraexis:  3 lightnings wont be enough for a firefly queen deck.  you need 2 lightningsjust to kill one queen.  it just isnt enough.  i really think if you replace one lightning with 1 dusk mantle, it can do you a load of good.  Besides, it blocks queens too so you dont need to kill them.  firefly spam?  steal the bonds.

TEAM LIFE has played no FFQ in the first 2 rounds--I wouldn't worry about them so much. (7 is a lot when half your deck is --probably see this from TEAM AIR)

We have some deck issues and are trying to resolve:
1.  4 Nightfalls for 3 darkness decks (2 fractal devourers, 1 flying stilettos) will not work as posted.  Working on alternatives
2.  Tinkady may not be able to play stiletto deck anyway--only listed 1 in auction. 
3.  Would love to have EQ x4 in 2 decks, but only have 6 total, so may have to skimp or go with alternative decks.

4.  Considering reshuffling icecoldbro's deck (fractaled physalia is interesting and comes off okay, but requires a death pillar in opening hand to have a chance to keep up.) This would  free up fractals for other decks
ORIGINAL (Rd 1 Artagas' round 1 poison/dragon deck with upped poison):

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Or, depending on what's left in the vault:

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