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Re: Round 2 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14595.msg189436#msg189436
« Reply #24 on: October 31, 2010, 02:43:00 pm »
@gocubbies: your deck updated

Check out post #2 in this thread to see what  :earth and :time played last round. 

Timerclock played a voodoo doll deck so whoever plays him should DEFINITELY pack a lobotomizer or 2 (to remove gravity pull) or consider going poison/stall.

Earth decks have EQ (obviously) and they ran 2 :darkness :earth denial decks last round.  Would probably need lightnings for devourers + EA to protect pillars.  Steal will still be a problem.  The alternative is to use EQs ourselves to knock out their pillars since shriekers are expensive.  (Antimatter, rewind or maxwell's would be perfect for us.)

As for :time ....not sure yet.
Well, that is exactly what I said that's why I think  6 protect enchantments is needed in my deck. But don't update anything yet, i would like to hear what does ICB think about it.


u can take the PA's as i have the upgraded card advantage and time only MIGHT take deflags.

id rather take a fractal deck maybe fractal phoenix if i may again with some stall just in case of a rush

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Re: Round 2 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14595.msg189508#msg189508
« Reply #25 on: October 31, 2010, 04:23:28 pm »
yeah i havent really made any stalls from scratch before. somebody wanna come up with a good idea for me? maybe going green with emerald shield is a good idea in case of lances. in fact we probably dont wanna do a stall that doesnt have a reflecting shield
also fractal frogs could work, but I agree that its risky because of RoF, so if there's something better lets do it

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Re: Round 2 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14595.msg189641#msg189641
« Reply #26 on: October 31, 2010, 07:11:02 pm »
yeah i havent really made any stalls from scratch before. somebody wanna come up with a good idea for me? maybe going green with emerald shield is a good idea in case of lances. in fact we probably dont wanna do a stall that doesnt have a reflecting shield
also fractal frogs could work, but I agree that its risky because of RoF, so if there's something better lets do it
in the future, we should try to get a rustler or 2 because then we can make a trio:  aether/light/life deck - the ultimate stall...  dim shields, heals, miracles, etc.
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Re: Round 2 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14595.msg189687#msg189687
« Reply #27 on: October 31, 2010, 08:23:42 pm »
i was thinking darkness vs time too, but i need a little more time to think it over. i will post it tomorrow sometimes. (maybe a little deck-testing tomorrow anybody?)
is there any card in the vault i should try not to use because other ppl need it more?
(fractal and lightning for example?)

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Re: Round 2 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14595.msg189843#msg189843
« Reply #28 on: October 31, 2010, 11:55:24 pm »
i was thinking darkness vs time too, but i need a little more time to think it over. i will post it tomorrow sometimes. (maybe a little deck-testing tomorrow anybody?)
is there any card in the vault i should try not to use because other ppl need it more?
(fractal and lightning for example?)
im using 4 x fractal.

btw, my new deck:
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Re: Round 2 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14595.msg189861#msg189861
« Reply #29 on: November 01, 2010, 12:09:53 am »
this is the only stall i can think of that would be able to deal with fire lances. rustlers and miracles would be quite helpful actually...how would something like this work?
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Re: Round 2 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14595.msg189866#msg189866
« Reply #30 on: November 01, 2010, 12:12:24 am »
this is the only stall i can think of that would be able to deal with fire lances. rustlers and miracles would be quite helpful actually...how would something like this work?
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it looks like its too aether heavy...  i think u less dragons..  maybe replace one with immortal?

this wont fix it but it will make it very slightly better
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Re: Round 2 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14595.msg189874#msg189874
« Reply #31 on: November 01, 2010, 12:17:05 am »
yeah i havent bothered with the details yet. but hows that for an idea? i cant think of anything else good or anything major to change about it. its too late to salvage cards right?

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Re: Round 2 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14595.msg189876#msg189876
« Reply #32 on: November 01, 2010, 12:20:32 am »
yeah i havent bothered with the details yet. but hows that for an idea? i cant think of anything else good or anything major to change about it. its too late to salvage cards right?
its not too late yet
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Re: Round 2 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14595.msg189914#msg189914
« Reply #33 on: November 01, 2010, 01:19:51 am »
Okay, I finally had time to look at whom I'm fighting. :entropy only lost 2 matches in Round 1, both to :air!  So that doesn't look good for me.

1 deck had 0 Discords
1 deck had 1 Discords
1 deck had 2 Discords
3 decks had 3 Discords
2 decks had 4 Discords (flying weapon decks)

1 deck had Butterfly Effect

1 deck had Blackholes

1 deck was a 40 card stall, all other decks where 30 cards.


A deck with Discord/Devourers/BE or Discord/BH would be difficult for us to fight.


 :entropy beat people that used Bonewalls or Dim Shields to try and stop the Discords.  So I'm thinking either:

Earthquake deck: QC

Deflag deck: PC

or some Cheap creature deck that Max Demon could crush, maybe frogs with spiders?

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Re: Round 2 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14595.msg190006#msg190006
« Reply #34 on: November 01, 2010, 03:45:13 am »
Okay, I finally had time to look at whom I'm fighting. :entropy only lost 2 matches in Round 1, both to :air!  So that doesn't look good for me.

A deck with Discord/Devourers/BE or Discord/BH would be difficult for us to fight.

 :entropy beat people that used Bonewalls or Dim Shields to try and stop the Discords.  So I'm thinking either:

Earthquake deck: QC

Deflag deck: PC

or some Cheap creature deck that Max Demon could crush, maybe frogs with spiders?
There are no easy matches this time around, and yours is the least enviable IMHO--no offense.  I don't think we have the cards to defeat a BH/discord deck (with the exception of a mono-aether which chained shields very earlybefore they drew discord---very unlikely.) 

So instead of killing ourselves trying to do the impossible, lets maybe focus on designing a deck which will beat a different :entropy deck.   If we use mindflayer, that takes the sting out of maxwells and allows spiders to survive.  (PU would also be nice to use on maxwell's, but only helpful for CC against other maxwells and dragons if they stay mono :entropy .)  Since they are likely to get a discord out early, you may take a slight risk and put cheap cards like MF, poison, arsenic, blessing, purify--essentially using discord to give you the quanta to play your cards.  Novas may help reduce the scramble effect as well and let you use some of these cards in case they don't have a discord (or don't get it out early.)  I think a :aether :light pendula deck may work if you fly weapons (MG or blessed arsenics+quint). Your match was the one reason I'm most saddened they removed the event card--a cost reduction on blessing would open huge possibilities for you vs discord--blessed MFs, blessed chrysaora, blessed frogs, etc.

Devourers may be another route to keep QC/denial and steal on discord would hurt them too.  Will try to post some deck ideas tomorrow.
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Re: Round 2 - Decks https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=14595.msg190041#msg190041
« Reply #35 on: November 01, 2010, 04:39:55 am »
A simple mono Aether deck + EA's can solve the Entropy problem.  They should go Butterfly Effect + Voodoo Doll, at least in my opinion.  Using a 35 card mono is what I would highly recommend.
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