Round 16 - Main Topic

[pikachufan2164]

I would appreciate if we keep all our deck-building and salvaging discussion in THIS topic.
Final decks and salvage/discards will go in their own respective topics, but it's best to keep the discussion in one place.

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Deckbuilding: Duel phase has started

Duels: Round has ended

Standing Vault:

 
0x Aether Pillar
4x Aether Pendulum
1x Lightning
2x Phase Dragon
1x Phase Spider
4x Fractal
1x Lobotomizer

 

 

 

 

 
4x Nova

 
1x Deflagration
0x Phoenix

 

 

 

 

 


Salvageable Cards:

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4vc 4vc 4vh 4vh 4vi 4vi 50u 50u 50u 590 590 590 590 590 5c1 5f6 5f6 5f6 6u3 6u3 77g 77j 77j 77j 8pm

2 Lightning, 4 Nova
Discard Pile:

None
Conversions:

5x Aether Pendulum

Into:
5x Aether Pillar

Penalties:

None

Match-Ups:

Higurashi (Gen.) vs. Napalm Grenade (Gen.)

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5f6 5f6 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61q 61q 61q 61q 622 622 622 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 7ds 81q 8po

Event:


Each team receives its choice of bonus cards whose total quanta cost is exactly 9. No zero-cost cards allowed.

-Should use the cost of the unupgraded version.

3x Lightning
1x Phase Spider

[willng3]

LIGHTNINGS!

[deuce22]

LMAO

[pikachufan2164]

LIGHTNINGS!

LMAO

Silly post from Will in our Main Topic thread = Higs wins her match for the round :D

[pikachufan2164]

Well, this is rather annoying.

With the Event card, Fire can easily jump back to the 60-71 card sweet spot and effectively gain a second chance at fighting us when they lose the first match.

[deuce22]

Well, this is rather annoying.

With the Event card, Fire can easily jump back to the 60-71 card sweet spot and effectively gain a second chance at fighting us when they lose the first match.

Well, they were already at 61, so they would survive another round regardless. The nice thing is that the event card doesn't allow them to add novas or immos, which means they are less likely to be able to play a 2nd grabbow or immo-deck. But this gives them a chance to pick up some anti-fractix cards (EQs or EAs for fog?) or whatever they are missing from their grabbow.

[pikachufan2164]

Well, this is rather annoying.

With the Event card, Fire can easily jump back to the 60-71 card sweet spot and effectively gain a second chance at fighting us when they lose the first match.

Well, they were already at 61, so they would survive another round regardless. The nice thing is that the event card doesn't allow them to add novas or immos. But this gives them a chance to pick up some anti-fractix cards (EQs?) or whatever they are missing from their grabbow.

dd originally had Fire at 58 cards going into Round 16 when I informed him that negotiated subs are 3 card salvages.

Side note: Ewww, 3 extra EQ for us to deal with. Do we want a better split now, or will simply having 19 Pends be enough?

We can grab the following from the event:

Option 1: Phoenix (7) + Lightning (2)
Option 2: 3x Lightning (6) + Silence/Rage Potion/Lobotomizer (3)
Option 3: Dimensional Shield (6) + Rage Potion/Silence/Lobotomizer (3)
Option 4: 3x Silence (9)

Of course, we have other options. Entropy leaving us with Novas in the salvage makes for an interesting event card -- we could even grab things like Sundials now.

[deuce22]

Fire knows we have to play some version of fractix. It's highly unlikely that we will be able to field another functional deck that can beat grabbow with entropy's salvage and the event card.  With that said, here are some possible fire strategies to counter fractix:

use 3 EQs
do NOT use any perms (deflags become dead cards)
Use EAs + fog (deflags are dead)
use 3 discord (god I hope they don't think of this)
Tit shield (unlikely because they probably won't have EAs)

[pikachufan2164]

If we take a look at the salvages that Fire recently got, we can see that they had a chance earlier to get up to 3 Discord already.
Titanium Shield + PA + a 2 cost card (like Fog Shield) could still be an option for Fire, though.

Deflag in a Fire duo > Discord, especially if we have a high number of Pends to mitigate the scrambling. We could take Sundials and rainbow splash from the Event and Novas from Entropy's salvage to make a Fractixbow if we really want to be Discord-proof, although Fire could also take BH from the Event in response.

[deuce22]

I really don't want to over-think this. You are right in that they probably won't use discords (at least, not in their grabbow). The logical counter for them is to take out their fog and arse and replace with EQs (Although, EQs didn't exactly work for Zeru).

We can split the quanta some and add lightnings. It will probably be a much more balanced deck.

[EvaRia]

Heck yes.

EDIT: just saw the 0-cost cards ruling.

Anyways, I think we should max out our lightnings again.

[pikachufan2164]

Hm. We can definitely afford to take a few Lightnings (we can grab up to 2 from Zeru's salvage and up to 4 from the Event), and get a more optimal Pend split (probably something like 10Pend/5Pill) in case of the up to 4 EQ (up to 3 from this round's event, and up to 1 from the previous card-generating event) that Fire might have hiding.