Round 12 - Main Topic

[EvaRia]

I would appreciate if we keep all our deck-building and salvaging discussion in THIS topic.
Final decks and salvage/discards will go in their own respective topics, but it's best to keep the discussion in one place.

Chat (Channel=#aether): http://www.chatspike.net/webchat/

Vault/Deck Tracking Spreadsheet (maintained by Pika): https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0AuLG6-uKpq33dDBuNnNjUXpUXzZIcWZtTDM0V3hVTFE&hl=en&authkey=CNy7_eUG

Deckbuilding: Duel phase has started

Duels: Round has ended

Standing Vault:

 
0x Aether Pillar
0x Aether Pendulum
0x Lightning
0x Dimensional Shield
0x Parallel Universe
5x Phase Dragon
0x Phase Spider
1x Fractal

 
4x Azure Dragon
1x Fog Shield
1x Wings

 
0x Devourer
0x Steal
0x Nightfall
0x Minor Vampire
1x Vampire Stiletto

 
0x Death Pendulum
2x Bone Dragon
3x Arsenic
3x Bone Wall
0x Mummy

 
1x Graboid
6x Earthquake

 
1x Lycanthrope
0x Nova

 
6x Deflagration
6x Phoenix

 
0x Black Hole

 
0x Forest Spirit

 
0x Light Pillar
0x Golden Dragon
0x Pegasus
0x Holy Light
0x Miracle
0x Sanctuary
0x Light Pendulum

 

 
1x Purify


Salvageable Cards:

by EvaRia

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5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f0 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5f4 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 5gi 71a 71a 71b 71b 71b 7do 8pk

6 Poison
Discard Pile:

by EvaRia

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4vj 4vj 5ia 5oc 5oc 5ol 5on 5on 5on 5on 5oo 5oo 5oo 5oo 5rp 5rp 5rp 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pr

4 Dimensional Shield, 2 Phase Spider, 2 Fractal, 1 Nova, 1 Purify, 1 Azure Dragon, 1 Wings

by EvaRia

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by EvaRia

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Conversions:

1x Earthquake
1x Rain of Fire
2x Rage Potion
2x Phoenix
1x Momentum
2x Sundial
5x Scarab

Into
13x Aether Pillar
1x Aether Pendulum

Penalties:

None

Match-Ups:

Higurashi (Gen.) Vs. MrBlonde (Gen.)

by EvaRia

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pikachufan2164 (Lt.) Vs. Zeru (Gen.)

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EvaRia Vs. kevkev60614 (Lt.)

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(...) Vs. Sevs (Gen.)

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52q 52r 52r 52r 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 52t 542 542 61q 61q 61v 61v 622 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 63a 8pk

Event:


During Deckbuilding, each team adds 12 different cards to their vault.

*You must take the cards, it is not optional.
*You may use the cards in your decks this round.
*As Always Pairings are calculated on last rounds values so the event will not affect pairings

1x Lightning
1x Parallel Universe
1x Dimensional Shield
1x Lobotomizer
1x Black Hole
1x Light Pillar
1x Golden Dragon
1x Pegasus
1x Holy Light
1x Miracle
1x Sanctuary
1x Light Pendulum

Post your deck requests early, the quicker we get this done, the more prepared we can be!

[pikachufan2164]

Chatlog:

http://pastie.org/private/5zlvql1ltwhwxwbggslclg
In which Deuce and I discuss the viability of suiciding, how RNG royally screwed me over against UW, and some deck ideas for next round (four/five-way split Devtal for Higs, possibly a Novagrabby or Sancstall for me).

[pikachufan2164]

Devtal for Higs

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Should work against pretty much everything Death can muster.

[deuce22]

would an upped nightfall (eclipse) help against skull shield?

[pikachufan2164]

would an upped nightfall (eclipse) help against skull shield?

As I explained before when I played this variant of Devtal, Nightfall is actually better than Eclipse, as our Devourers slip underneath the CC range and troll the EQ stall by continuing to drain their quanta.

Although they can hide behind Skull Shield for a fairly long time before our Fractalled Vampires come in, Diamond Shield is the real threat for Devtal.

[pikachufan2164]

Excuse me while I go insane -_-"

Deuce and I are in #aether right now; join us if you have some time. I'll be on all day today, and probably late into the night to finish up Decks, S/D/C, and Event card stuff.

[deuce22]

Just moving this here, with a couple changes.

The obvious ones
lightning - 6 total
dim shield - 5 total (not really enough for MA anymore)
PU - 2 total
Spider - 3 total

Aether cards to consider
Fractal - would bring us to 9, but since we will only playing 2 decks at a time, 8 might be enough to get us through war
immortal - useful in MA or grabbow splash
phase dragon - would bring us to 8, but we only use them in MA and maybe air duo, so I would advise not to add 1
lobo - useful against UW

Cards from Eva's deck
4x dim, 2x fractal, 2x spider
4 other cards
- could consider 4x wings (helps with our lack dims, but only useful against fire and maybe death, so may want to consider other options)
- 1x or 2x purify (deadly poison is deadly)
- 1x nova (6 total for grabbow)
- 1x azure? (possible azure dims deck...)
- 1 or 2x wings?

This leaves us 5 (or 6, if we pass on fractal) other cards to add from the event. if we keep the air duo, might want to consider making it stronger. Adding miracle and light dragon would make the sanc stall viable (otherwise, may want to convert the sancs). pots and RoF to help with our fire duo and/or fractix. another momentum?

Things to definitely convert for suicides = 2x sundial, 5x scarabs, 1x EQ (maybe more)

[pikachufan2164]

Loaded in Devtal into our Tracker spreadsheet, and the discards from last round.

From Napalm's salvage, we should probably grab at least 2x Arsenic and 2x Bone Wall for future Death duos. The other two cards are up in the air.

Eva's saved cards are currently set at 4x Dim Shield, 2x Fractal, 2x Spider, 1x Nova, 2x Purify, 1x Shockwave.

Event cards are currently set at Lightning, Dim Shield, PU, Spider, Immortal, Lobo, +6 blank cards.

I'm uncomfortable with playing Novagrabby against Entropy because theirs can outpower mine, and it's going to be a very good salvage for them. Aside from the Devtal, I'm not sure of what works against Death now (mostly due to the SS/EQ deck which could appear from either Blonde or Kev).

Sorry for being so utterly useless this round >_<"

[Higurashi]

Pretty sure Death's Earth stall is gone. We have Fractix, Devtal and PUnix against them (a dedicated one; not with Lightnings messing it up).

It's tempting to take Poisons from Nap. They make our BoneBolts much more reliable. Yeah, don't think we'll be able to build another Death duo anyway. Should strengthen the one we have instead.

[EvaRia]

K, we should get into chat.

Lots left to do...

I'm thinking a Sancstall against death could do pretty well atm...

I can take dragons/peggies for the kill.

[pikachufan2164]

The match-ups against Death all depend on whether they still have that EQ deck or not.

If we're absolutely sure about them not having it, then we may be able to run Sancstall with a Miracle random Fractal Light Dragon (both from Event card; we can probably also take 1 Light Pillar + 1 Light Pend from the Event for consistency purposes). Maybe also take a Crusader (along with putting Lobo into the deck) for extra trololol if they take Arsenics?

We should probably suicide against UW, and possibly Entropy as well.

[pikachufan2164]

Eva's Sancstall

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Pika's Mindgate-tech Novagrabby

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A deck for Dots is coming soon. We may want to consider suiciding to UW.