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Re: Silence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17264.msg219970#msg219970
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2010, 02:56:10 am »
18 :aether + 6 cards = 6 turns where the opponent can't do anything??? That's... insane. There's already an 18 turn delay thanks to Phase Shield.
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Re: Silence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17264.msg219971#msg219971
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2010, 02:56:28 am »

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Re: Silence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17264.msg219972#msg219972
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2010, 02:58:05 am »
Zanzarino should give credit to Final Fantasy for this card.

Pretty obvious connection IMO.
If it was copied from FF, it would only stop spells from being played rather than all cards :P.

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Re: Silence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17264.msg219973#msg219973
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2010, 03:02:18 am »
18 :aether + 6 cards = 6 turns where the opponent can't do anything??? That's... insane. There's already an 18 turn delay thanks to Phase Shield.
Don't consider the extreme case and judge the card depending on it. According to your logic, upgraded Nightmare is also crazy because with 6 :darkness, you can prevent opponent's draws for six freakin turns.
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Re: Silence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17264.msg219987#msg219987
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2010, 03:19:16 am »
At first I thought this would be a permanent, but as a spell it also makes sense... and the fact that it counters ALL cards (not just spells) makes it one of the top denial cards (if not THE TOP card) in-game. Devourer, Black Hole, Earthquake, Rewind, etc.... they just can't compare to this card. >_>

I just thought of one of the most evil decks using this card and a few other 'not-so-used' cards... :P

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Re: Silence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17264.msg220013#msg220013
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2010, 03:56:24 am »
I would recommend the cost raise to 6, so it won't be abused in early game
and I agree make it as a life card is much better since we have too many strong card in aether

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Re: Silence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17264.msg220015#msg220015
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2010, 03:57:58 am »
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Re: Silence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17264.msg220016#msg220016
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2010, 04:08:29 am »
Seems too cheap now at only 3 :aether for unupped. I'm for increasing the cost or just stopping permanents/spells.

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Re: Silence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17264.msg220019#msg220019
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2010, 04:19:28 am »
Can we start the nerf Silence thread yet or do we wait until it's live?

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Re: Silence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17264.msg220026#msg220026
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2010, 04:34:41 am »
Can we start the nerf Silence thread yet or do we wait until it's live?
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What is the best way to nerf it?

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Re: Silence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17264.msg220036#msg220036
« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2010, 04:49:57 am »
Well I haven't actually played with it I'm only typing theoretically but...

Going first and playing 1st turn Silence is OP because you've gained an extra turn at the start of the game for only 3/2 :aether .  You're also causing opponent to discard so you've gained a turn and killed a card.  Now mulitiply that by however many Silence you manage to chain at the start of the match.  Also the last thing we need is another card that can be abused with supernova (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10216.0.html).

Raise the cost, either make it like 5/4 :aether or even more expensive and add a cantrip.

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Re: Silence https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17264.msg220045#msg220045
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2010, 05:09:16 am »
I think the drawback should be you have to play it at the start of your turn, and you can't play anything else in your turn either. Either that, or make it only restrict some of the cards.

 

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