Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom

[furballdn]

One of the problems I find with the other shards is that they don't support their respective elements enough.  Shards shouldn't be able to be included in any old rainbow, SoSe excluded.  SoW can't work without Aether unless it's an SoR'd Anubis or a Seraph.  This is how the shards should be, not this SoF crap that can be put in any rainbow in exchange for explosions.

My thoughts exactly.  Particularly in SoBe and SoF, there aren't really strong ties with Shards' Elements.  SoW is one that actually tries to incorporate some affinity while maintaining its Other status.

It's actually the least "other" out of all the other cards. As it is, it can only be used if you have creatures, or are using quints. It can also be used as a counter against immaterial with reflective shields, but that's it. Outside of that, it's useless.

IMO, how a shard should be.  And don't forget seraph

If that's the case, then why are shards other? Why not elemental?

[Drake_XIV]

Because existing Shards have set the precedence

[Captain Scibra]

Because existing Shards have set the precedence

That doesn't really make sense.  zanz intended that they be Other so they had general use, while being augmented when a feature found mostly or entirely of a specific element is present. 

[The_Tao]

I can sympathize with wanting the shards to be very powerful when used in element, lore based and thematically that is what they are: a shard of the element they represent. Each shard is named after an aspect that is present in each element. They allow for some abilities that are normally element specific to cross over without succumbing to rainbow status. My worry comes not from the shards not being elemental, but that a lot of deck now days rely  on these "other" cards. Zen, SPlat, and Intatosis absolutely must have these shards to win.

[Mammalman]

I disgaree with Drake that the existing shards have set the precedent of only being useful in decks composed mostly of their primary element. SoRs have plenty of uses outside of  decks, for example. SoSe obviously goes in rainbow decks of many kinds. A common  / deck uses SoSac's with mark. Etc.
Which I think is cool. It's fine that Shards have natural obvious power in their home element but it would be boring/lame if they could ONLY be used effectively AT ALL in such decks.


That said I also agree with The_Tao's point that in general it seems like shards are taking over everything by being the most crucial components of the most powerful decks. You practically need sharded/unsharded as much as you need upped/unupped...

[Zso_Zso]

Is it intentional or a bug that this card takes away the vampire's healing ability ?
When I play SoW on a quintessenced vampire, it no longer heals me...
Which is rather sad 

[Vineroz]

Is it intentional or a bug that this card takes away the vampire's healing ability ?
When I play SoW on a quintessenced vampire, it no longer heals me...
Which is rather sad 

the ability Vampire is always depended on physical damage, as in it can affect by shields.

And I think Spell damage > vampire is thematically reasonable too.

[stc4025]

IMO this card is a little OP, it's cost needs to be raised or it needs to have only a temporary spell effect. The only counters for this are reflective shields and sundials...which is a total of like 3 individual cards to counter it. One of those things that is great if you have it but a game killer if you don't.

[Cheesy111]

I disgaree with Drake that the existing shards have set the precedent of only being useful in decks composed mostly of their primary element. SoRs have plenty of uses outside of  decks, for example. SoSe obviously goes in rainbow decks of many kinds. A common  / deck uses SoSac's with mark. Etc.
Which I think is cool. It's fine that Shards have natural obvious power in their home element but it would be boring/lame if they could ONLY be used effectively AT ALL in such decks.


That said I also agree with The_Tao's point that in general it seems like shards are taking over everything by being the most crucial components of the most powerful decks. You practically need sharded/unsharded as much as you need upped/unupped...

SoW, SoFre, SoD, SoR have the greatest links to their respective elements.  After that, probably SoV/SoG/SoBe which have loyalty not to the element but to the mark.  SoSe is (I assume) meant to be rainbow because of the nature of Entropy as 'the rainbow element' and SoI is only usable in a shardbow.  SoSac is not very useful in death, but it's not very useful in anything but monolight and even then it's eh because of how splashable puri/sopa are.  Speaking of which, SoPa/SoFo are far too splashable. 

I am curious as to what the light/darkness SoSac and non-Time SoR decks you are referring to are.  Just posted the above to give the rest of the thread some context as to splashability in the meta (for example, you won't see SoVs used as a main strategy without darkness mark, you won't see SoDs in a monolife, but you could see SoPa in a shrieker rush or SoFo in a monofire). 

[Laxadarap]

IMO this card is a little OP, it's cost needs to be raised or it needs to have only a temporary spell effect. The only counters for this are reflective shields and sundials...which is a total of like 3 individual cards to counter it. One of those things that is great if you have it but a game killer if you don't.

Definitely not.  This requires a 3 card combo or immortals, which aren't too common except in monoaethers.  And also unstoppable=momentum, but ignores ALL shields, this is perfectly balanced. 

EDIT: Also, even if 1 creature bypasses your shields, just outrush them, its really not that hard, most strategies requiring multiple card combos are slow.

[sieglsiegl]

What's the point of dealing spell damage besides avoiding most shields?

[Higurashi]

None. That is the very point. It is, in most cases, as good as Momentum, and the +4 attack is huge.

However, it also allows for antics with Quint and your own reflective shields.