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Re: Shard of Conscience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg406688#msg406688
« Reply #36 on: October 08, 2011, 10:13:09 pm »
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Re: Shard of Conscience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg406740#msg406740
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2011, 12:17:58 am »
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It might be a bit harder to code that way, and the Aether mark makes a slightly bigger difference. But the key factor I'm looking at here is that 3 divisions of 75 is 9.375, I'm assuming it rounds down, but it feels unintuitive that you need an entire fourth shard to get the full benefit of the Aether bonus.
Like its been stated before, with three, they cap at 8. ...
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4) All this talk of 3 of them taking the cap to 8 ...
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The point #4 is so spot-on ...
Did I miss some special announcement from Zanz stating that 3 shards specifically goes around the division and drops right to 8? Because I see the math as
75
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= 37.5
/2
= 18.75
/2
9.375

Which rounds down to 9. Meaning four shards to actually gain the full aether benefit. Which actually matters, as the difference between 9 and 8 is the difference between Upped Fractal working and it being locked out by SoC.

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Re: Shard of Conscience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg406789#msg406789
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2011, 01:15:56 am »
Pestal Deck + SoC = OMG!  :o

Re: Shard of Conscience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg406812#msg406812
« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2011, 02:35:42 am »
Interesting.

I can live with it. I would hate if decks using this took off (think Nightmare GotP), because, that would basically - suck.
But as long as its just another card which might get played and enhance a few strategies, then I'm sweet.


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Re: Shard of Conscience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg406827#msg406827
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2011, 03:04:42 am »
I don't like the direction Elements is taking.  Mono's, Duo's and Rushes keep getting nerfed, and Stalls and Rainbows get powerful new cards.

Cards like Shard of Conscience that stop you from playing cards are unfun.  Sure it is great to be the one playing the counterspell, but it sucks being on the other end and not being able to even play your cards.
I dont quite see how this card nerfs rushes... or monos... or duos...  If anything its an anti stall card. This card, if anything, fits into a more mixed stall/rush instead of a pure version of either, and stops stalls more than anything.
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Re: Shard of Conscience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg406843#msg406843
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2011, 03:37:39 am »
This looks like an attempt to stop fire stall, but again I don't think it will do much.

It will add another counter -- a deck specifically built around stopping a fire stall using these would work, but it wouldn't do well against other decks. So the rock-paper-scissors meta fire stall creates will stay.

And, without PA, fire stall will just explode them.

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Re: Shard of Conscience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg406883#msg406883
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2011, 05:40:15 am »
This card by itself doesn't do much. Even two only caps your opponent's quanta at 18 and rarely any decks go over that (besides super stall decks). This does stop fire stall as well as some other stalls and weakens Fahrenheit a lot though.

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Re: Shard of Conscience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg406956#msg406956
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2011, 10:31:57 am »
It will be difficult to play 3 of this, pulvy decks laugh at this.

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Re: Shard of Conscience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg407050#msg407050
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2011, 04:29:25 pm »
It will be difficult to play 3 of this, pulvy decks laugh at this.
Enchant them :>

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Re: Shard of Conscience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg407112#msg407112
« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2011, 07:27:17 pm »
It will be difficult to play 3 of this, pulvy decks laugh at this.
Enchant them :>
Cool, so now we're devoting at least 6 cards, probably more, to stopping a single, not all that popular deck type. And half of those cards will require some specific earth quanta. And it's a two card combo.

Wow, that deck sounds pretty bad.

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Re: Shard of Conscience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg407118#msg407118
« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2011, 07:37:54 pm »
It will be difficult to play 3 of this, pulvy decks laugh at this.
Enchant them :>
Cool, so now we're devoting at least 6 cards, probably more, to stopping a single, not all that popular deck type. And half of those cards will require some specific earth quanta. And it's a two card combo.

Wow, that deck sounds pretty bad.
The shards stack.  So you only need one PA.  Not that it makes an enormous difference...

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Re: Shard of Conscience https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg407320#msg407320
« Reply #47 on: October 10, 2011, 01:48:46 am »
It will be difficult to play 3 of this, pulvy decks laugh at this.
Enchant them :>
Cool, so now we're devoting at least 6 cards, probably more, to stopping a single, not all that popular deck type. And half of those cards will require some specific earth quanta. And it's a two card combo.

Wow, that deck sounds pretty bad.
The shards stack.  So you only need one PA.  Not that it makes an enormous difference...
So its 4 cards, 3 consciousness and 1 PA. Probably 3 PA to guarantee getting it quick, and 6 SoC's to get three of 'them'. So thats 9 deckslots to do something that most decktypes couldn't even care less about. A pulvy deck would just laugh, say "ok", and use the deckslot advantage to just directly kill you or stall you.

 

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