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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1080742#msg1080742
« Reply #252 on: June 17, 2013, 12:25:45 am »
By that line of reasoning, Rain of Fire, Thunderstorm, Plague, and Pandemonium should affect immortal creatures because they say "every enemy creature" and don't target creatures.

I am confused as to who you were meaning this toward...

Immortal cards just f*cked up (no offense). Change the 'targeted' with 'affected' and everything is correct. Kay, not everything, my idea is to change it "This card can't be affected directly". I've discovered it a long ago, but I haven't knew about the forum, so I just get used to the mistake. I think the others too.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1080780#msg1080780
« Reply #253 on: June 17, 2013, 04:45:45 am »
By that line of reasoning, Rain of Fire, Thunderstorm, Plague, and Pandemonium should affect immortal creatures because they say "every enemy creature" and don't target creatures.

I am confused as to who you were meaning this toward...

Immortal cards just f*cked up (no offense). Change the 'targeted' with 'affected' and everything is correct. Kay, not everything, my idea is to change it "This card can't be affected directly". I've discovered it a long ago, but I haven't knew about the forum, so I just get used to the mistake. I think the others too.
How is this any different? Why would Shard of Wisdom not "affect" the creature?

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1080852#msg1080852
« Reply #254 on: June 17, 2013, 12:42:02 pm »

Immortal cards just f*cked up (no offense). Change the 'targeted' with 'affected' and everything is correct. Kay, not everything, my idea is to change it "This card can't be affected directly". I've discovered it a long ago, but I haven't knew about the forum, so I just get used to the mistake. I think the others too.
How is this any different? Why would Shard of Wisdom not "affect" the creature?

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I said about the shard earlier with UndeadSpider1990, with one big difference. The card should be reworded and I think the ability either. Not too much work, just a picture change.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1081037#msg1081037
« Reply #255 on: June 18, 2013, 12:09:42 am »
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Alternate wording? Just my effort I'm sure there could be better ways to fit it on the card.
Spoiler for Alternative Card Wording:

Seems like if anyone had thought this was good enough it would've been done already.

I feel as if anyone with a trace of common sense can figure out the original wording anyway, but maybe this is slightly less vague.
« Last Edit: June 18, 2013, 01:12:39 pm by UndeadSpider1990 »
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1081135#msg1081135
« Reply #256 on: June 18, 2013, 10:39:37 am »
I dont care about the wording.. This way it is just more obvious that the card makes no sense. The point of quint is that the creature can not be targeted.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1081180#msg1081180
« Reply #257 on: June 18, 2013, 05:08:45 pm »
Perhaps the wording of quint should be changed to "Cannot be targeted except by shards."

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1081521#msg1081521
« Reply #258 on: June 19, 2013, 11:27:32 pm »
My only slightest objection to the fact that this card breaks the immortal rule is that it could potentially be used offensively. As a buff, I have no problem with it being able to target your own guys. The real breach I feel would be when an offensive thing (Say, "Phase Lightning") appeared that could target supposedly untargettable guys. But mechanically, I don't think that this possibility (which is mostly Quint+Wisdom on an opp's creature, +reflective shield) is powerful enough o warrant a change to this card at all. (Indeed, that deck sounds crap. Please by any means demonstrate that I'm wrong, but it seems to me you'd be better off with Antimatter + Offense of your own).
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1081528#msg1081528
« Reply #259 on: June 20, 2013, 12:51:50 am »
SoW+Reflect is a viable strategy. There have been some decks posted using it, like this one and this one. It also works very well as a FG counter for Divine Glory, because then you don't even need the Quints.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1081575#msg1081575
« Reply #260 on: June 20, 2013, 07:06:56 am »
it seems to me you'd be better off with Antimatter + Offense of your own).

Antimatter doesn't kill the opponent for you, so Quint+SoW+Reflect takes up almost as little deck space as Antimatter+Offense, but it also pretty cheap in quanta and almost a Mono. The added bonus is that there is basically no way to counter Quint+SoW+Reflect, as all cards on the field become immaterial, while the Antimatter'd creature and the Offense can generally be CC'd.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1087144#msg1087144
« Reply #261 on: July 15, 2013, 04:53:39 pm »
I love this Shard -- perfect synergy with the element giving  :aether some way to bypass opponent shields.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1144166#msg1144166
« Reply #262 on: July 05, 2014, 04:20:19 pm »
What was the original card ability?
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1144173#msg1144173
« Reply #263 on: July 05, 2014, 05:07:46 pm »
The 1.30 version is shown here.
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