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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1018765#msg1018765
« Reply #228 on: November 30, 2012, 10:01:48 pm »
Isn't the definition of the poisoning ability that "on successful hit" it will deliver poison ?
Well, when it is changed to spell damage, then it no longer "hits" the enemy, so that could explain it.

What I mean, this might very well be intended behavior rather than a bug.
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Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1024446#msg1024446
« Reply #229 on: December 21, 2012, 09:50:17 pm »
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1024459#msg1024459
« Reply #230 on: December 21, 2012, 10:24:04 pm »
What happens if I play this new version of SoW on a creature like, say, horned frog or light nymph, and then later play quintessence on it?  Will it now deal spell damage, or will it still deal physical damage?  Is the new version playable on immortal creatures like the old version was?

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1024517#msg1024517
« Reply #231 on: December 22, 2012, 12:55:39 am »
What happens if I play this new version of SoW on a creature like, say, horned frog or light nymph, and then later play quintessence on it?  Will it now deal spell damage, or will it still deal physical damage?  Is the new version playable on immortal creatures like the old version was?
1. Probs still physical.
2. Still playable on immortals.
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1024619#msg1024619
« Reply #232 on: December 22, 2012, 06:53:14 am »
I look forward to making new decks with this. Specifically, I shall post new scorpion decks in the beta section in the next few days.
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1024622#msg1024622
« Reply #233 on: December 22, 2012, 07:02:34 am »
I look forward to making new decks with this. Specifically, I shall post new scorpion decks in the beta section in the next few days.
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1024641#msg1024641
« Reply #234 on: December 22, 2012, 08:18:07 am »
Hm, it would be interesting if Quinting a SoW'd creature would enable spell damage...

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1024727#msg1024727
« Reply #235 on: December 22, 2012, 03:57:45 pm »
the whole concept of SoW is gone, meaning it was a card for non-targetable cards only. This version is applicable to every creature, including non-targetable and targetable which idea makes the non-targetableness pointless.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1024784#msg1024784
« Reply #236 on: December 22, 2012, 07:10:16 pm »
Still has a bonus if not targetable (spell damage).

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1025607#msg1025607
« Reply #237 on: December 25, 2012, 07:45:30 pm »
Still has a bonus if not targetable (spell damage).

i know, let me explain. target cards like fire ball cannot target untargetable creatures. SoW was the opposite, it was able to target non-targetable craetures but was not able to target targetable creatures.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1025656#msg1025656
« Reply #238 on: December 25, 2012, 10:43:46 pm »
i know, let me explain. target cards like fire ball cannot target untargetable creatures. SoW was the opposite, it was able to target non-targetable craetures but was not able to target targetable creatures.

Yes, that is true. However, the old SoW pretty much forced you to use only immortal creatures in your deck because the old SoW was a dead card until you drew your first immortal creature. This one can be used (with significant risk) on any creature which allows more variation in which decks can use SoW. I think this change is very good for this card. For example, this is a kind of neat combo which allows you to choose between CC and creature buff:

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You can add quintessence as well to either protect your demon or give a creature spell damage.

Providing multiple uses for cards is very good for the game.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg1048458#msg1048458
« Reply #239 on: March 05, 2013, 07:13:08 pm »
This card always bothered me a little. The ability immortality says that the creature cannot be targeted. So, why should someone add a card that can target untargetable creatures. I know first it was created as a colorless Shard that should have an affinity to aether, therefore it was designed that way because aether and immortality go hand in hand but it makes no sense. Some might say: But this card only adds bonuses to the card. That's not true in some cases, for example if someone has any reflecting shields, suddenly your creatures turn against you and you cannot do anything against it because its ability makes it untargetable...
I recommend to delete this card or remake it, to make untargetable creatures untargetable again. Otherwise we have to add a card that makes untargetable cards truely untargetable. Or change the text of that ability to somewhat like "cannot be targeted by anything but aether cards" but i prefer to say goodbye to this card.
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