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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg471271#msg471271
« Reply #132 on: March 16, 2012, 02:22:00 am »
Just a note : the OP doesn't display the upgraded version giving a +4 | +0 buff for me.
Yes I was in the middle of uploading the updated upgraded image as you posted this.  Fixed now.
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg471288#msg471288
« Reply #133 on: March 16, 2012, 02:48:23 am »
Actually, the more I think about it, the more I like this card. One use no one seems to have mentioned yet is Seraph (although that's a riskier use of it). I strongly take back what I said earlier, this is a very good card, whilst being niche enough to not be OP.
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg471294#msg471294
« Reply #134 on: March 16, 2012, 03:00:31 am »
Just a note : the OP doesn't display the upgraded version giving a +4 | +0 buff for me.
Yes I was in the middle of uploading the updated upgraded image as you posted this.  Fixed now.
My browser shows it as this, despite clearing my cache (The new upgrade is in the spoiler labeled "Old Version" and the old one is still the upgrade):
Not sure if it's just me though.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg471300#msg471300
« Reply #135 on: March 16, 2012, 03:06:10 am »
Simply posted the new image in the old version spoiler by mistake.  Fixed fixed.
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg471373#msg471373
« Reply #136 on: March 16, 2012, 08:16:48 am »
This shard is good, but it is very situational. It will be more interesting when we change text into: "Target creature now deals spell damage. If Immaterial gain +4/0"

Then it will be useful card, also for tactic with reflect attack. Having 6 SoW, Reflective Shield and waiting for game against Aether won't be very popular and this card will be UP. When we change this card, then it will be interesting tactic with reflect.


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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg471389#msg471389
« Reply #137 on: March 16, 2012, 09:41:42 am »
This shard is good, but it is very situational. It will be more interesting when we change text into: "Target creature now deals spell damage. If Immaterial gain +4/0"
Yes. Or if not immaterial gain -4|+0.

Btw. Should it work with borrowed creatures? and with Seraph (Seraph is not immaterial it is shielded)?

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg471390#msg471390
« Reply #138 on: March 16, 2012, 09:44:56 am »
It does work with Seraph. However, it only lasts 1 turn (when Seraph's ability is used, it overrides the spell status).
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg471395#msg471395
« Reply #139 on: March 16, 2012, 10:15:18 am »
I don't like tha fact that is too specialized. It would allow a base effect (granting spell damage) adding an effect based on the mark or similiar.
Say, Target creature now deals spell damage, if the creature is immaterial (does it counts burrowed too?) or if the creature is  :aether gains +4|+0.

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg471398#msg471398
« Reply #140 on: March 16, 2012, 10:44:17 am »
I don't like tha fact that is too specialized. It would allow a base effect (granting spell damage) adding an effect based on the mark or similiar.
Say, Target creature now deals spell damage, if the creature is immaterial (does it counts burrowed too?) or if the creature is  :aether gains +4|+0.
This might be a good idea, actually. As of now, it's too situational and can't even be used outside of highly specialized decks. (mono Aether, quinted critters)
Compare SoR, which can be usable in any deck but will benefit much more on :time decks.
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg471399#msg471399
« Reply #141 on: March 16, 2012, 10:49:35 am »
This shard is good, but it is very situational. It will be more interesting when we change text into: "Target creature now deals spell damage. If Immaterial gain +4/0"
Yes. Or if not immaterial gain -4|+0.

Btw. Should it work with borrowed creatures? and with Seraph (Seraph is not immaterial it is shielded)?
Aether has got low attack, so I prefer +4/0 for Immaterial. Burrow creatures shouldn't get this bonus, because this Shard should be for Aether, but we can discuss about it.

I think also about other buff. Maybe text "Target creature now deals spell damage. If Immaterial create Lighting" will be more interesting? But I don't know what change will be better - Lighting to hand or +5 damage instantly. This card has got potential, but we must allow use it on all creatures, not only Immaterial.

And last thing. When SoW can avoid shield then also SoFr need buff. Both cards have got similar effect (avoid shield and attack bonus). +4/0 means often more than +50% critical hit and You always avoid shield. In SoFr You need seven creatures (7x15% = 105%) to get this effect every turn (statistical), SoFr is too random effect, it is easier destroy SoFr than Immaterial creature and SoFr cost much more... We need balance here (nerf SoW or buff SoFr).

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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg471400#msg471400
« Reply #142 on: March 16, 2012, 10:58:45 am »
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Re: Shard of Wisdom | Shard of Wisdom https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=32132.msg471409#msg471409
« Reply #143 on: March 16, 2012, 12:06:04 pm »
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