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Re: Phase Dragon | Elite Phase Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg486716#msg486716
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2012, 08:25:46 pm »
I've learned to haye these from the anger i feel when against an aether stall.

I have to admit that it isn't a horribly OP card though
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Re: Phase Dragon | Elite Phase Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg1008821#msg1008821
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2012, 02:46:02 am »
Just curious, does anyone know what phase dragon was before the change/changes?
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Re: Phase Dragon | Elite Phase Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg1008824#msg1008824
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2012, 02:55:07 am »
It just didn't have Immaterial, if I remember correctly.
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Re: Phase Dragon | Elite Phase Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg1008826#msg1008826
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2012, 02:59:19 am »
Mortal with 13|4 on one version. Not sure which, however. Probably upgraded.

Honestly, I think it should be mortal with slightly lower stats than the typical dragons, if that helps balance the usage with PU - which I consider basically a non-factor after the introduction of pendulums.
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Re: Phase Dragon | Elite Phase Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg1009482#msg1009482
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2012, 12:28:33 am »
a non-immerteral phase dragon would also significantly nerf the Dragon + SoW spam that seems quite common
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Re: Phase Dragon | Elite Phase Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg1009499#msg1009499
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2012, 02:15:12 am »
Quote from: vivimancer on October 21, 2012, 12:28:33 am
a non-immerteral phase dragon would also significantly nerf the Dragon + SoW spam that seems quite common
Immortals are much more popular for SoW usage than dragons due to being nearly half the cost.
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Re: Phase Dragon | Elite Phase Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg1009559#msg1009559
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2012, 08:42:27 am »
Quote from: vivimancer on October 21, 2012, 12:28:33 am
a non-immerteral phase dragon would also significantly nerf the Dragon + SoW spam that seems quite common

Nerf Phase Dragon?  You'd actually say goodbye to Shard of Wisdom and say hello to Twin Universe spam again.
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Re: Phase Dragon | Elite Phase Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg1010504#msg1010504
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2012, 06:10:09 am »
Quote from: Drake_XIV on October 21, 2012, 08:42:27 am

Nerf Phase Dragon?  You'd actually say goodbye to Shard of Wisdom and say hello to Twin Universe spam again.

It would certainly make a change =) But the game has grown a lot since mono-aether was so dominant, there are more ways to contain TW spam now.  But really there is  no real reason to nerf phase dragons
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Re: Phase Dragon | Elite Phase Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg1010570#msg1010570
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2012, 03:14:34 pm »
SoW is better to use on Immortals and with Reflective anyways. There's basically zero reason after the introduction of pendulums to prohibit a mono PU dragon.
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Re: Phase Dragon | Elite Phase Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg1010689#msg1010689
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2012, 01:38:12 am »
Quote from: ddevans96 on October 25, 2012, 03:14:34 pm
SoW is better to use on Immortals and with Reflective anyways. There's basically zero reason after the introduction of pendulums to prohibit a mono PU dragon.

Pendulums are clunkier (probably ends up being 0.25 turns slower on average).
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Re: Phase Dragon | Elite Phase Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg1010704#msg1010704
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2012, 02:37:50 am »
Slower than what? A duo being slower than a mono PU dragon rush? Then give Phase Dragon slightly less attack than the normal if it really is an issue, which I'd doubt. At this point, having immortal is just silly.
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Re: Phase Dragon | Elite Phase Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=1989.msg1010783#msg1010783
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2012, 05:07:38 pm »
Quote from: ddevans96 on October 26, 2012, 02:37:50 am
Slower than what? A duo being slower than a mono PU dragon rush? Then give Phase Dragon slightly less attack than the normal if it really is an issue, which I'd doubt. At this point, having immortal is just silly.

I have always thought that... It always seemed to take away that ALL dragons are supposed to be big vanilla beat sticks.
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