Mindgate | Mindgate

[Kael Hate]

I want to try playing a pvp duel with my self where both decks are 6 mindgates and 54 aether towers.
I wonder how much aether quanta you would end up getting? 

Okay.
That has got to be the most AWESOME thing that that I've ever done on Elements.
I laugh at the people who do not realize the awesomeness of mindgate.



13163 AETHER QUANTA
632 AETHER PILLARS
NUFF SAID

And this prooved what? That you in a controlled environment can generate a lot of ?

[EvaRia]

sorry it was just fun xD

[Kael Hate]

sorry it was just fun xD

Oh, ok then cool.

I agree Mindgate is fun. I run 2 in my rainbow deck for interest but it actually reduces the effectiveness of the deck.

[Hodari]

I was looking for something a bit faster because I dislike all the "sit behind Dimensional Shield and stall" type of decks. My main objective was to build a shutdown deck using this but it didn't work all that well.

I think the problem there is that mindgate isn't really meant to be used in a fast deck, but rather in one that is able to stall long enough to set things up first.  There are a few reasons for this:
1.  You are not only trying to play your own deck, but also your opponent's deck as well
2.  Since you (usually) don't know what deck you'll be facing, you need to be prepared to cast anything which means relying fairly heavily on quantum towers(while you COULD simply hope to take enough of your opponent's towers/pillars to power their spells, this would make things even slower and risk missing their towers altogether if you're not able to use mindgate every turn due to needing to cast something else instead like phase shields).  On the other hand using quantum towers means you may have to wait a few extra turns to get enough aether to even cast the mindgate in the first place.
3.  Ideally, you are not just playing one copy of their spells, but several(at least of the more useful ones)

All of this means in order to be fully effective, mindgates need a huge supply of quanta which in turn requires a decent amount of time to set up first and thus favors a deck which is able to stall at least long enough to achieve this.

http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11275.0.html (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11275.0.html) is a deck I made which, while not very effective against fg's, has had very good success in pvp2 so far for me.  It has virtually no offense of its own but is able to stall long enough to take control of the opponent's deck and it against them several times over in most cases. 

[Marvaddin]

decent card, but nothing like electrum hourglass...
when the ability cost was for the upgraded version i'd think about it... with the adjusted cost of i really don't like it

I came here to post this same exact thing. I tested Mindgate card yesterday and I think it could use a buff. Reducing the cost to 1 sounds good to me.

Then again there might be some awesome way of using the card that I haven't figured out yet.

I would like this buff too.

[tyranim]

now in game, needs to be moved to aether

[Fallower]

Hmm this card works very similarly to steal; they are both very dependent on the opponent's deck. Difficult to make Anti-FGs using these; so many FGs have permanent control. Interesting card anyway.

[icecoldbro]

a great  - synergy this card makes u play whaetever ur opponent plays but better
another great addition to aether

[Gerontius]

Just had a fun game against this card.

I had eternity and a load of hourglasses out. All I had to do was reverse time on a useless creature at the end of each turn, then hourglass past it before putting it back again, and the card was completely nixed.

[Fallower]

Just had a fun game against this card.

I had eternity and a load of hourglasses out. All I had to do was reverse time on a useless creature at the end of each turn, then hourglass past it before putting it back again, and the card was completely nixed.

LOL. Thats a cool counter for the card. xD Eternity seems to be a good help/hindrance for it... But you don't get to draw as well.

[BurnOne]

The design of this cards is just... wow

[Avenger]

decent card, but nothing like electrum hourglass...
when the ability cost was for the upgraded version i'd think about it... with the adjusted cost of i really don't like it

I came here to post this same exact thing. I tested Mindgate card yesterday and I think it could use a buff. Reducing the cost to 1 sounds good to me.

Then again there might be some awesome way of using the card that I haven't figured out yet.

I would like this buff too.

It is a killer card even now (sure, in a stalling deck). But not every card should be useful in a rush deck.

Mindgate is fun with: eternity+shield+aflatoxin+druid. Obviously this isn't a rush deck