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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg220892#msg220892
« Reply #132 on: December 10, 2010, 07:57:29 am »

Just so you know, Zanz somtimes nerfs or buffs based on usage regardless of Power level. If fractal has a draw value that is stupidly high then zanz might have increased its cost to reduce its usage. It happend with Steal, it happend with SoG, it happened with Sundial. Mind you I would have prefered Sundial had its base version cost increased and upped version hasten value increased and the in/out values be 3/2 rather than the reduction of the ability to 1 turn.

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221124#msg221124
« Reply #133 on: December 10, 2010, 05:51:48 pm »
It happened with Steal, it happened with Firefly Queen, it happened with Pulvy.
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SoG, according to Zanz at least, was nerfed because he didn't know why it wasn't 3 in the first place, since the other Shards were less used and were still more expensive.

Sundial was just broken, no matter how you looked at it.  It was the best card to use in every format of the game, and, even if it was more expensive, it would still have the two-turn stall, which is devastating against every rush.
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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221145#msg221145
« Reply #134 on: December 10, 2010, 06:27:32 pm »
The Elements community has not been overrun by fractal decks.  This cost increase is unwarranted.
Allow me to retort.  IN SONG!!!

Nowadays, with decks it seems
That fractal's as popular as memes
There's fractix, cocktal, pestal too,
Fractal gem finder, to name a few...
So if you take a bunch of pillars
And throw them into a pile
You'll make a AI3 farmer...
And beat them all in style...

Well...
You...
Can...
fractal your vampires
You can fractal your devourers
When you fractal up some scarabs
You'll be fractaling devourers

If you could fractal aether makers
It'd be fractal Armageddon
But now that there's crusaders
You can fractal flying weapon

You can fractal your scorpions
You can fractal up some spiders
You can fractal your fireflys
And when upgraded, get fire

You can fractal frogs and things that charge
And fractal dragons if your quanta's large
And fractal things that suicide
And fractal creatures that use dive
You can fractal cards that mind flay
You can fractal cards your opponent's play
You can fractal every single card!!!!

(spoken) But mister!  Is there any card that can't be fractaled?
(spoken) Why no little boy.  You can put a single copy of a card in a different successful fractal deck, and then once you have a lot of quanta, you can fractal it.
(spoken) But if anything can be fractaled, doesn't that make this song really pointless?  Shouldn't you just sing a song about what you can't fractal?
(spoken) You're a smart boy, aren't you.

You can't fractal immortals.
You can't fractal phase dragons, man.
You can't fractal graboids
Unless it's a mutant... in which case you can....

Back to things you can!

You can fractal things that eat
And you can fractal fish with feet
And you can fractal cards that are free
You can fractal golems in CCYB...

You can fractal every single card!!!!!!! (doo doo)

Fractal decks listed in song:  Fractal vampires, Fractal devourers, Fractal Scarabs, Fractal Crusaders + Weapon (x15), fractal death recluse, fractal phase recluse + wings, fractal scorpion, fractal death stalker + nightfall, fractal firefly + hope, fractal firefly + lance, Fractal frogs, Fractal cockatrice, fractal pheonix, Fractal+Gem Finder+Stone Skin, Fractal Chargers, Fractal+Virus, Fractal+Dragonfly+Wyrm, Fractal + Dragon (x12), Fractal+Mindflayers+Phase shield, Adaptation (AKA FRAC YOU!), fractal pufferfish, RoL hope, fractal sparks, Creature control Why Bother?!.

Total fractal decks listed (not counting duplicates due to weapons and dragons): 51(24)

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221152#msg221152
« Reply #135 on: December 10, 2010, 06:38:02 pm »
That was awesome Gl1tch ;D Getting the point across in style.

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221189#msg221189
« Reply #136 on: December 10, 2010, 07:23:05 pm »
You can fractal every single card!!!!!!! (doo doo)
lolz at permanents that you can't fractal xD

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221192#msg221192
« Reply #137 on: December 10, 2010, 07:24:57 pm »
Yea, you can't fractal permanents or spells, but that omission really ruined the flow of things =P

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221223#msg221223
« Reply #138 on: December 10, 2010, 07:58:02 pm »
Beginning petition to have Gl1tch actually sing a rendition of that song for youtube... :P

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221225#msg221225
« Reply #139 on: December 10, 2010, 07:59:50 pm »
aw man that was awesome :D :D

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221242#msg221242
« Reply #140 on: December 10, 2010, 08:35:00 pm »
As much as that was utterly Bad F***ing Ass, it's unfortunately kind of missing the point.  I just played 3.5 hours of straight PVP2, and I saw exactly 1 Fractal deck.  Maybe that's wierd, but I think it's pretty normal -- which is the point.
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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221244#msg221244
« Reply #141 on: December 10, 2010, 08:36:02 pm »
That song was quite the chuckle.  So much a chuckle that...

Beginning petition to have Gl1tch actually sing a rendition of that song for youtube... :P
...I'm willing to upload the song to my Youtube channel if Gl1tch sings it.  (Community spotlights ftw?)

Essence is correct though, it does rationalize the meta-game in an off manner, but oh well.
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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221288#msg221288
« Reply #142 on: December 10, 2010, 09:31:07 pm »
As much as that was utterly Bad F***ing Ass, it's unfortunately kind of missing the point.  I just played 3.5 hours of straight PVP2, and I saw exactly 1 Fractal deck.  Maybe that's wierd, but I think it's pretty normal -- which is the point.
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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221300#msg221300
« Reply #143 on: December 10, 2010, 09:44:52 pm »
As much as that was utterly Bad F***ing Ass, it's unfortunately kind of missing the point.  I just played 3.5 hours of straight PVP2, and I saw exactly 1 Fractal deck.  Maybe that's wierd, but I think it's pretty normal -- which is the point.
People mainly use fractals for farming gods; Rol/Hope deck, etc
agreed, also, i think fractal should only be nerfed to 9 cost upped 10 cost unnupped.
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