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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221342#msg221342
« Reply #144 on: December 10, 2010, 10:28:48 pm »
As much as that was utterly Bad F***ing Ass, it's unfortunately kind of missing the point.  I just played 3.5 hours of straight PVP2, and I saw exactly 1 Fractal deck.  Maybe that's wierd, but I think it's pretty normal -- which is the point.
People mainly use fractals for farming gods; Rol/Hope deck, etc
During war, at least the :aether, :time, :life, :earth, :darkness, :light, :air and :death teams used fractal decks, so they seem to be more popular in this kind of PvP events.
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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221381#msg221381
« Reply #145 on: December 10, 2010, 11:26:26 pm »
Bravo, Gl1tch.  I enjoyed reading your song.  ;) And I must say, well-played, but...

As much as that was utterly Bad F***ing Ass, it's unfortunately kind of missing the point.  I just played 3.5 hours of straight PVP2, and I saw exactly 1 Fractal deck.  Maybe that's wierd, but I think it's pretty normal -- which is the point.
^^This.  And BTW, you could have inserted "momentum" for "fractal" as far as what you CAN use it on, but that doesn't mean it needs a card cost increase either.

Fractal + (phoenix, pest, frog, RoL) and CCYB are about the only decks I've seen in real PvP or T50, and even then not all that often.  I won't hold my breath for the gemfinder fractal deck, BTW....  Given the number of possibilities you eloquently enumerated, there ought to be a whole lot more fractal decks if it were truly hopelessly broken with regard to card cost.  As a matter of fact, you'll see more shrieker rush, life rush, speedbows, or fire-stall than all of these fractal decks combined (excluding CCYB or RoL/hope).  Elements players are pretty clever, so if this fractal card was so exploitable, we would certainly see it being exploited as such.
During war, at least the :aether, :time, :life, :earth, :darkness, :light, :air and :death teams used fractal decks, so they seem to be more popular in this kind of PvP events.
This at least partially owes to the vault card limitations (and possibly to the large number of fractals Team Aether was handing away) and not due to the true popularity of the decks.  I wonder if we've seen more graboid decks than fractal decks in the War--they are a convenient card since they are low cost and evolve easily with novas.  But this doesn't mean they need a card cost increase either, in my opinion.
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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221396#msg221396
« Reply #146 on: December 11, 2010, 12:00:43 am »
(Semi off topic)

Isn't Graboid's evolve power get upped to two? I think I heard that somewhere....

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221746#msg221746
« Reply #147 on: December 11, 2010, 08:05:24 am »
I have to say that I don't know about how war teams make their decks, but from what I know of PvP, almost nobody uses fractal AND wins with the same deck.

PS: Gl1tch, the song was awesome, but you forgot about Fractal Brim Eaters + Fire Lance.

Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg221771#msg221771
« Reply #148 on: December 11, 2010, 09:19:03 am »
Gl1tch, was that song based off of this one?



If not, then the tune fits perfectly with your version. XD

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg222764#msg222764
« Reply #149 on: December 12, 2010, 10:21:42 am »
Fractal chargers is my current T50 deck of choice, as Phase Shields have been extremely prevalent. I could live with an increase to 9, but making upgraded Fractal worse than currently unupgraded Fractal seems extreme. Plus, I don't see why it can't just be shifted by 1 and then reevaluated. It's not like a card can only be changed once.

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg222778#msg222778
« Reply #150 on: December 12, 2010, 11:31:11 am »
It's not like a card can only be changed once.
i could say the same thing too about the current change
instead of whining about it, just try and live with the current change and if another change is warranted, it will

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg222822#msg222822
« Reply #151 on: December 12, 2010, 12:52:39 pm »
Or find a new deck.

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg223038#msg223038
« Reply #152 on: December 12, 2010, 06:34:51 pm »
Or find a new deck.
i have to agree with this, i think i am going to sell my RoL/Hope deck and switch it for CCYB
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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg223108#msg223108
« Reply #153 on: December 12, 2010, 07:44:35 pm »
Or find a new deck.
i have to agree with this, i think i am going to sell my RoL/Hope deck and switch it for CCYB
Ive done it already xD

Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg223129#msg223129
« Reply #154 on: December 12, 2010, 07:53:09 pm »
Or find a new deck.
i have to agree with this, i think i am going to sell my RoL/Hope deck and switch it for CCYB
Ive done it already xD
It'll be funny if Fractal gets re-nerfed, so that the cost is 10/9 instead of 11/10. :P

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Re: Fractal https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3946.msg223191#msg223191
« Reply #155 on: December 12, 2010, 09:13:12 pm »
Ive done it already xD
I would not sell your decks yet. You could easily use them to buy another FG deck but still play with the one you are experienced with. And I want to try it with Crusaders (I will have to modify it to have more Towers though to counter the nerf)

 

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