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Re: New FG farmer - Zeru's Mirage Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11135.msg144643#msg144643
« Reply #48 on: August 23, 2010, 05:21:00 am »
Sorry to double post, but this image is just too epic to ignore. This me epically defeating Elidnis. 8)
(http://imageplay.net/)

Dealing almost 200 damage per turn.
That is Epic.

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Re: New FG farmer - Zeru's Mirage Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11135.msg146852#msg146852
« Reply #49 on: August 26, 2010, 03:48:17 pm »

I built this deck on the live servers.

The good news is this is probably the most fun deck I've played.  The bad news is, I often lose and worse is that I lose after long games.

I'd had 3 issues with the deck:
-You are essentially playing the FG deck against themselves except the AI gets a head start (since you have to setup before you can start drawing), has more quantum and twice the life.  Your advantage is you have 18 turns of phase shields.   You need to stall as long as possible before playing them in order to have the shields at the end of the game when the FG might have enough creatures on the board to kill you in 1 turn.

-Many games were stalemates where I got everything I could have asked for from the FG but simply could not kill him before decking out.   Ferox, Decay, Neptune, Osirus are long drawn out losses.   The deck needs something to help break the stalemate.   A puly would be epic but you cannot guarantee you would get to play it or activate it.

-Many times I got "nightmared".  This is where I got mindgate going and drew a card I could not play.   I stopped only drew one card.   Same thing next turn.  A few turns of this and I've got a hand full of cards I can't play and then at the beginning of the turn I draw from my deck which may prevent me from even using mindgate.   In essence, you need to get towers early from the mindgates or you "nightmare" yourself.

I love playing this deck though.  I had a long string of losses back to back but just kept playing because I had fun.

Kurohami

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Re: New FG farmer - Zeru's Mirage Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11135.msg146902#msg146902
« Reply #50 on: August 26, 2010, 05:51:47 pm »
@Clathius. You know when you listed the advantage we have over the false gods you missed some crucial points. Other than the phase shield, this deck has SoGs which the FGs don't have, SoG is considered by many to be OP for a reason. Over the long run it gives you a lot of hp, enough to undermine the health difference between you and the FG anyway. Another point is that this deck has electrocutors and with two of them there's a good chance to draw them early. An early electrocutor alone can trample many FG's strategy completely like Fire queen and Osiris. The most important advantage you missed is the fact that mindgates can break the card count barrier and allow you to have insane copies of cards. With Neptune, I often end up with 20 something water towers and a ton of quantum. So, when he draws a dragon, I'll draw 6 and play them with no delay. Now that's an advantage isn't it? With Gemini, I'll draw many phase shields from him and become almost invincible. With Elidnis, I'll draw many copies of TU and copy his largest forest spectre multiple times. These are the real advantage of this deck, not just the phase shields.

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Re: New FG farmer - Zeru's Mirage Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11135.msg146906#msg146906
« Reply #51 on: August 26, 2010, 06:04:35 pm »
@Clathius. You know when you listed the advantage we have over the false gods you missed some crucial points. Other than the phase shield, this deck has SoGs which the FGs don't have, SoG is considered by many to be OP for a reason. Over the long run it gives you a lot of hp, enough to undermine the health difference between you and the FG anyway. Another point is that this deck has electrocutors and with two of them there's a good chance to draw them early. An early electrocutor alone can trample many FG's strategy completely like Fire queen and Osiris. The most important advantage you missed is the fact that mindgates can break the card count barrier and allow you to have insane copies of cards. With Neptune, I often end up with 20 something water towers and a ton of quantum. So, when he draws a dragon, I'll draw 6 and play them with no delay. Now that's an advantage isn't it? With Gemini, I'll draw many phase shields from him and become almost invincible. With Elidnis, I'll draw many copies of TU and copy his largest forest spectre multiple times. These are the real advantage of this deck, not just the phase shields.
While I agree with much of what you said, Clathius may have been using the deck in the OP rather than the one with QTs and SoGs. In that case he wouldnt have the SoGs or the Electrocutors that you talk about. But yeah I use the one you're talking about sometimes and it is fun, though definitely not the most efficient deck out there :P.

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Re: New FG farmer - Zeru's Mirage Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11135.msg146908#msg146908
« Reply #52 on: August 26, 2010, 06:25:58 pm »
Not efficient. My stats revolve about 30%. Maybe if you add more towers.. maybe supernovas.
There are many options, but I am quite busy with grinding cards for the trials so I don't want to test decks at the moment.

And yes. Mind gate is a very cool cards indeed :)

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Re: New FG farmer - Zeru's Mirage Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11135.msg146976#msg146976
« Reply #53 on: August 26, 2010, 08:05:45 pm »

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Re: New FG farmer - Zeru's Mirage Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11135.msg147009#msg147009
« Reply #54 on: August 26, 2010, 08:52:44 pm »
Funny, but not as efficent and good as i thought it was. Zeru is like... huge, the deck really isnĀ“t. At least not for the purpose of farming FGs.

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Re: New FG farmer - Zeru's Mirage Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11135.msg147011#msg147011
« Reply #55 on: August 26, 2010, 09:01:34 pm »
I thought the win rate was pretty good, like around 40-50%, though it's really slow and you could lose in late game if your shield runs out.

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Re: New FG farmer - Zeru's Mirage Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11135.msg147034#msg147034
« Reply #56 on: August 26, 2010, 09:59:30 pm »
The path of the mind gate should be one with 24 Quantum Towers in a huge Rainbow Deck. And a lot of Protect Artifacts. And Dissipation Field.

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Re: New FG farmer - Zeru's Mirage Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11135.msg147049#msg147049
« Reply #57 on: August 26, 2010, 10:30:44 pm »
Well, you can only have 6 mind gates in a deck and huge rainbow makes sure you won't get them early enough. So, I still think mind gate should be in a non-rainbow deck. It uses tremendous amounts of aether quanta too.

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Re: New FG farmer - Zeru's Mirage Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11135.msg148460#msg148460
« Reply #58 on: August 29, 2010, 02:38:16 pm »
dude this deck is so awsome i one time had 7 air nymphs very nice

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Re: New FG farmer - Zeru's Mirage Deck https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=11135.msg149200#msg149200
« Reply #59 on: August 30, 2010, 11:13:39 pm »
Hey, one time when I was assembling this deck I accidentally put my aether nymph in and didn't notice. It turns out this deck can support the quanta usage of the nymph quite well with its 12 aether towers/pendulums and mark. I know this deck is meant to be creatureless, but do you think adding an aether nymph is worth it? There is the problem that it increases the deck size.

 

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