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[Round 1] Deck Builder + Forum Expert Task https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61272.msg1224719#msg1224719
« on: February 22, 2016, 07:28:51 am »
How will you fight?

  • The player would get to choose their element, and each element is to have two deck options, one called 'Speed' and another called 'Control'.
  • The decks would be extremely diluted versions of classic deck archetypes, but all 40 card decks with no more than 4 of the 'combo' cards.
  • The player would have to work out on their own that streamlining the deck to 30 cards would be best.
  • The synergies in the decks would be diluted enough to give a sense of discovery when the player realizes how best to play the deck, and what cards work well together.

Spoiler for Examples:
Spoiler for Air's Starter Decks:
SPEED: Blessed Wyrms
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4t4 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lb 5lc 5lc 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lm 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oe 5oe 5oe 5oe 5of 5og 5oh 5oh 5on 5oo 8pq


CONTROL: Firefly Queens with Empathic Bonds
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4t4 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bt 5bv 5bv 5c2 5c3 5c4 5c6 5c6 5c6 5c7 5c9 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5od 5oe 5of 5oh 5oh 5oj 5oj 5oj 5oj 5ok 5on 8pn

Spoiler for Death's Starter Decks:
SPEED: Chrysaora and Creature Rush
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4t4 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52j 52j 52m 52o 52o 52o 52o 52p 52r 52r 52t 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i6 5i7 5i7 5id 5ie 5ig 8pp


CONTROL: Bonewalls and Lightning Bolts
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4t4 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52h 52j 52j 52o 52o 52o 52p 52r 52r 52r 52r 52s 52t 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61o 61p 61p 61q 61q 61q 61q 61r 61s 624 8pu

Spoiler for Full List of Starter Deck Options:
:air :air :air
Speed: Blessed Wyrms
Control: Firefly Queens with Empathic Bonds


:death :death :death
Speed: Chrysaora and Creature Rush
Control: Bonewalls and Lightning Bolts


:fire :fire :fire
Speed: Lava Destroyers
Control: Bonewalls and Firebolts


:life :life :life
Speed: Rustler Rush with Mitosis
Control: Forest Spirits with Heals and Freeze


:aether :aether :aether
Speed: Partial Ghostal with Anubis
Control: Dimensional Shields with Minor Vampires, some Devourers, some Immortal Creatures and 1-2 Fractals


:entropy :entropy :entropy
Speed: Fallen Elves with Life rush, Mutations and Abominations
Control: Schrodinger's Cats with Antimatters, Maxwells, Vultures and Bonewalls


:time :time :time
Speed: Diluted Grabboid Rush
Control: Rewinds, Ghost of the Past, Nightmare


:water :water :water
Speed: Toadfish with Wyrms
Control: Steam Machines with Various Water and Fire control


:darkness :darkness :darkness
Speed: Lycanthropes with Gargoyles and Vampires
Control: Voodoo Dolls with Rage Potion


:earth :earth :earth
Speed: Hematite Golems, Shriekers and Rage Potions
Control: Earthquakes and Devourers


:gravity :gravity :gravity
Speed: Chargers and Graviton Fire Eaters splashed with Fire
Control: Armagios, Otyugh with Butterfly Effects and Antimatter, Various damaging creatures


:light :light :light
Speed: Dune Scorpions and Blessings
Control: Lightning Bolts and Healing with other Aether/Light Stall
« Last Edit: February 28, 2016, 11:29:35 pm by kirbylover314 »

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Re: [Round 1] Deck Builder + Forum Expert Task https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61272.msg1224964#msg1224964
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2016, 12:02:57 am »
Just a thought I had.
The player would get to choose their element, and then 1 of 2 decks of that element, each with a different theme.

Spoiler for Hidden:
different starter deck options

< Speed >
:air
:death
:fire
:life


:aether
:entropy
:time
:water


< Control >
:darkness
:earth
:gravity
:light


(AIR)
wyrms/pegasus blessings
ffq

(DEATH)
lightningbolts/walls
chrysaora

(FIRE)
lava destroyer
firebolts/walls

(LIFE)
rustler
forest spirit


(AETHER)
quintessence w/time
momentum and shields

(ENTROPY)
mutation w/life
cats w/death

(TIME)
nightmare/ghosts
graboids

(WATER)
toadfish
steam machine


(DARKNESS)
lycantrope
doll / rage pot

(EARTH)
earthquake/devourer
pulverizer

(GRAVITY)
heavy dragons
discord/BH

(LIGHT)
lightningbolts/healing
dune scorpions

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Re: [Round 1] Deck Builder + Forum Expert Task https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61272.msg1224997#msg1224997
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2016, 06:09:08 am »
Welcome to the party majo :D

Love that plan, and having that as a description with 2 elements' decks (so 4 decks total) would be a really interesting read. Nice outside the box idea.
The hard thing will be getting the decks right so they go with the theme but are not too balanced / good
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Re: [Round 1] Deck Builder + Forum Expert Task https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61272.msg1225110#msg1225110
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2016, 08:52:05 am »
I really really like this idea, only complaint with the list you came up with is that the pulvy deck would give a free weapon

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Re: [Round 1] Deck Builder + Forum Expert Task https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61272.msg1225246#msg1225246
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2016, 10:07:42 am »
Obviously not optimized, since they are meant to be starters, but I built some decks:
Spoiler for Hidden:
Spoiler for Wyrms/Pegasus + Blessing:
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5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5l8 5lb 5lb 5lc 5lc 5lf 5lf 5lf 5lf 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5od 5od 5oe 5oe 5oe 5oe 5og 5oh 5on 8pq
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5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5bs 5c3 5c4 5c6 5c6 5c6 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5oc 5og 5oh 5oj 5oj 5oj 5oj 5oj 5on 8pn

Add Hope? Or does it not feel rushy enough?
Spoiler for Bonebolt:
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52j 52j 52o 52o 52o 52p 52r 52r 52r 52r 52r 52t 61o 61o 61p 61p 61q 61q 61q 61q 61s 8pu
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52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52g 52j 52j 52o 52o 52o 52p 52r 52r 52r 52t 5i4 5i4 5i4 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i5 5i7 5i7 5ie 5ig 8pp

Personally giving non-optimized decks gives an opportunity for a new player to make it better themselves. The skills they'll learn would help them build other decks of their own.

Also feel like most of them can probably have their card limit pushed closer to 35 or even 40.
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Re: [Round 1] Deck Builder + Forum Expert Task https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61272.msg1225248#msg1225248
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2016, 11:13:34 am »
Yeah i would like them even less optimised, so that they contain the combos, but less obviously, so the player can feel like they 'discover' the combos in the deck. I likd the inclusion of spark in BW for that reason. Id say no more than 4 of any one card, 35-40 card decks and throw in a sword so they can use the weapon slot :)
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Re: [Round 1] Deck Builder + Forum Expert Task https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=61272.msg1225494#msg1225494
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2016, 12:41:36 am »
Changed the two that would have had weapons.

Just a thought I had.
The player would get to choose their element, and then 1 of 2 decks of that element, each with a different theme.

Spoiler for Hidden:
different starter deck options

< Speed >
:air
:death
:fire
:life


:aether
:entropy
:time
:water


< Control >
:darkness
:earth
:gravity
:light


(AIR)
wyrms/pegasus blessings
ffq

(DEATH)
lightningbolts/walls
chrysaora

(FIRE)
lava destroyer
firebolts/walls

(LIFE)
rustler
forest spirit


(AETHER)
quintessence w/time
momentum and shields

(ENTROPY)
mutation w/life
cats w/death

(TIME)
nightmare/ghosts
graboids

(WATER)
toadfish
steam machine


(DARKNESS)
lycantrope
doll / rage pot

(EARTH)
earthquake/devourer
otyugh/plate armor

(GRAVITY)
heavy dragons
armagio/butterfly effect

(LIGHT)
lightningbolts/healing
dune scorpions

 

anything
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