12 Lives #4 - Sign Ups

[shockcannon]

This clearly wasn't a foreseen issue, but it would have been nice for someone to make a decision when this issue was brought up then, and inform us what the planned tiebreaker would be when that issue arose. Hopefully now this can be implemented into the PvP Events rewards system and updated so there's precedent for future events.

I don't have any issues with this not being established beforehand, but it would have been nice to at least have an explanation for the tiebreaker on the final rankings post instead of needing someone to ask what the tiebreaker was since it hadn't yet been established or posted anywhere else.

[rob77dp]

I have a proposal:

Do not apply any tie-breakers for the PVPE Points system. Sure, break the tie for standings or direct event rewards themselves, but as it relates to PVPE Pts any "ties" simply evenly-split PVPE points among those tied.

EX:
Two players tie for 3rd place in an event where 3rd gets 3 points and 4th gets 2 points. (2 + 3) / 2 = 2.5 points (round up if you must be whole...?)

Three players tie for 4th place where 4th - 6th receive 2, 1, 1 points, respectively. (2 + 1 + 1) / 3 = 1.33 points... so on and so forth


Thoughts?

[Wyand]

Or just simply giving full points to each player? Similar example: last Olympics, swimming, men 100 m butterfly. Results:

gold medal: Schooling - 50.39;
silver medals: Cseh, Le Clos, Phelps - 51.14;
bronze medal: no bronze medal awarded, because of the tie (2-4.).

[majofa]

You are right about two things, these are good arguments. True, the pvp event participation program was applied later, plus yes, I'm also happy that the program exists and I get points for it.
My problem that both shockcannon and I mentioned the problem at round 6, when it mattered, and all we got that "this is irrelevant etc." instead of explaining
the rule which applies to situations like this. And it doesn't matter that it probably won't affect our performance. The principle matters. I simply don't like that it
is not the first time when someone questions something and all he gets like "less qq", "I'm the authority so I'm automatically right" or some ad hominem
or something irrelevant is handed out instead of a true argument.

Yes, I have a huge sense of justice. Others may say that I'm touchy. Still, my opinion stays the same if it happens with someone else or if I would end up
losing points by using the correct logic.

When you play your match during the round is irrelevant.

Context matters.

[Wyand]

I meant that, but I didn't explain myself and was lazy to search again for the aforementioned comments. What I wanted to
point out that it was stated that it is irrelevant when we play however it wasn't stated what is decisive then.

[majofa]

Final Participation Points:

• rob77dp (40)
• worldwideweb3 (40)
• asdw152 (37)
• TheonlyrealBeef (33)
• Vindilos (28)
• shockcannon (27)
• Wyand (23)
• Gb4by (20)
• DANIEELA (17)
• Manuel (6)

Let me know if I miscalculated somewhere.